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onifre
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Message 16 of 181 (669323)
07-29-2012 6:08 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Tangle
07-28-2012 11:36 AM


Sometimes you think that the very best thing that the rest of the world could do for poor old USA is issue them all with passports and visas and make them travel outside their borders at least once in their lives
Well since almost a million people immigrate to the United States yearly I'd say most of us have seen other places. Most of our families and ancestors came from other countries.
Don't forget, the US is made up of immigrants, no one is native to this land. Shit, our president's dad was from Kenya and Obama himself studied outside the US for his youth.
Unless you mean the native American's should grab a passport and go see other places? Because the US is other places.
- Oni
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onifre
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Message 17 of 181 (669324)
07-29-2012 6:11 AM
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07-29-2012 6:08 AM


Re: Depends....
Damn right - London was 100x more entertaining
I don't know dude, the Beijing ceremony was to the London ceremony what Transformers was to Robocop
- Oni
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Message 18 of 181 (669325)
07-29-2012 6:19 AM
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07-29-2012 6:11 AM


Re: Depends....
the Beijing ceremony was to the London ceremony what Transformers was to Robocop
I can't disagree with that.
Transformers: a tale told by that idiot, Michael Bay, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing...
vs
Robocop: a work by that sometimes genius, Paul Verhoeven - gritty, thrilling, shocking, and moving.

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onifre
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Message 19 of 181 (669332)
07-29-2012 6:49 AM
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07-29-2012 6:19 AM


Re: Depends....
Robocop: a work by that sometimes genius, Paul Verhoeven - gritty, thrilling, shocking, and moving.
I don't think I'd call the Queen and James Bond (two fictional characters) jumping out of a plane "genius".
Of course made no better by our humble, Mormon moron shitting the bed over there. Sorry about that. He's like our own Borat.
- Oni

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cavediver
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Message 20 of 181 (669336)
07-29-2012 7:09 AM
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07-29-2012 6:49 AM


Re: Depends....
Of course made no better by our humble, Mormon moron shitting the bed over there. Sorry about that. He's like our own Borat.
Hey, anything that unites the entire spectrum of the UK press is good with me

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Tangle
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Message 21 of 181 (669348)
07-29-2012 10:51 AM
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07-29-2012 6:08 AM


I'd say most of us have seen other places. Most of our families and ancestors came from other countries
Well, your passport office tells a different story.
You currently have almost 110m million valid passports out of a population of 311m. So two thirds of you guys don't see a need to travel much outside the US of A
U.S. Passports
[fyi - Brits with passports, 71%]

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jar
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Message 22 of 181 (669350)
07-29-2012 11:20 AM
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07-29-2012 10:51 AM


on travel
Well, I can understand Brits needing to travel outside England, it's not like the whole Island is all that large. I mean come on, the UK is about 244,000 square kilometers while Texas alone is almost 700,000 square kilometers.
France is only a few miles away across the channel, so there is an almost Texas size area where you can stretch your legs after a short ferry or train ride.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 23 of 181 (669352)
07-29-2012 11:34 AM
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07-29-2012 11:20 AM


Re: on travel
Well, I can understand Brits needing to travel outside England, it's not like the whole Island is all that large. I mean come on, the UK is about 244,000 square kilometers while Texas alone is almost 700,000 square kilometers.
France is only a few miles away across the channel, so there is an almost Texas size area where you can stretch your legs after a short ferry or train ride.
Well sure, but that's the point really - Americans are shockingly parochial because they don't get out much.
"Americans are comfortable in their own environment," Bommarito said.
There were 61.5 million trips outside the United States in 2009, down 3% from 2008, according to the Office of Travel and Tourism Industries. About 50% of those trips were to either Mexico or Canada, destinations that didn't require a passport until 2007.
So when they do travel 'aboad', half of them practically stay at home and the recent boom in passport ownership is because of needing them to travel to and from Canada. Sheesh.
http://articles.cnn.com/...tive-passports-tourism-industries

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jar
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Message 24 of 181 (669356)
07-29-2012 12:08 PM
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07-29-2012 11:34 AM


Re: on travel
It's not so much just being comfortable at home, it's that there is a lifetime of variety here. I've spent over a half century exploring the US and have still not made it to every state.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 25 of 181 (669357)
07-29-2012 12:33 PM
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07-29-2012 12:08 PM


Re: on travel
It's not so much just being comfortable at home, it's that there is a lifetime of variety here. I've spent over a half century exploring the US and have still not made it to every state.
While that is true - it is variety within a common culture. You find much the same TV, basically the same shops, the same language, and so on.
Americans are cursed in that there aren't many nations with a significantly different culture very nearby. Texas is pretty different than New York, but they are closer together than the Czech Republic is to Italy. In fact - the distance between those two is probably less than than travelling from one end of Texas to the other. And they are much more diverse in their cultures than New York is to Texas.

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jar
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Message 26 of 181 (669359)
07-29-2012 12:52 PM
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07-29-2012 12:33 PM


Re: on travel
While that is becoming increasingly true, it was not true for most of my life.
I have been lucky enough to travel throughout some of the US and actually spend time in different cultures. I was lucky enough to be able to spend time over on Dafuskie Island before its development into a resort like many others, at a time when the witching woman was still dominate, when Geechee and Gulah were still spoken; in parts of Appalachia before TV and even electricity were the norm and I sat on a stump listening to folk tell tales and fiddle; on Indian Reservations and in Amish communities where outsiders are "The English"; in Baltimore when it was still a blue collar city of ethnic neighborhoods; to live when Savannah was still a rowdy harlot and Charleston a Grand Old Dame; to visit Harlem when it was not "in" but it certainly was cool; here in Deep South Texas where English is the second language; to live before Interstates when the US Highway was a two lane road and every town was different and unique and any trip an adventure.
While the language may have been technically "English" it was certainly not the same and cultures varied as much as anywhere in the world.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 27 of 181 (669372)
07-29-2012 2:47 PM


Returning to the olympics...
Right,
Returning to the olympics, we won our firs gold medal today! Yay! Thanks Marianne Vos and the Dutch women's cycling team!

  
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Message 28 of 181 (669374)
07-29-2012 2:59 PM
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07-29-2012 12:08 PM


... and something topical
Hi Jar
I've spent over a half century exploring the US and have still not made it to every state.
I have 4 to go -- all in the middle flat lands ...
Hurray for Netherlands medals. I like reporting on ALL the athletes, not just the country (US especially fawns on US athletes and ignores others) of broadcasting.
Enjoy

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onifre
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Message 29 of 181 (669386)
07-29-2012 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Tangle
07-29-2012 10:51 AM


So two thirds of you guys don't see a need to travel much outside the US of A
Being that, like I said, many of us are from other countries, many of us have passports from other countries. Also, poor people don't travel much.
- Oni

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Message 30 of 181 (669407)
07-29-2012 8:00 PM
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07-29-2012 10:51 AM


Hi Tangle
So two thirds of you guys don't see a need to travel much outside the US of A
I've been to Puerto Rico, Canada, Mexico, England, Scotland, France, Netherlands, Luxembourg (saw my first tour de france there), Belgium, Russia, and Alaska ...
Enjoy.

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