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NoNukes
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Message 5 of 308 (670746)
08-18-2012 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Taz
08-18-2012 1:05 AM


Re: Things Paul Ryan Doesn't Know
The lies do work on some people. Last week there was a news item about the owner of an ice cream parlor who turned down a visit by the vice president ostensibly because of the "You didn't build that" line.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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Message 7 of 308 (670750)
08-18-2012 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by RAZD
08-18-2012 10:07 AM


Re: Things Paul Ryan Doesn't Know
And thereby missed an opportunity to discuss his outrage with the VP and become a hero to the GOP?
I think the likelihood is that the parlor owner is a republican who just didn't want to assist democrats and repeated a party line.
FNN (Faux Noise Nonsense) or CNN (Conservative Note Nattering)?
But I don't have the impression that CNN is helping to spread this particular lie. I haven't watched Fox News since the last election cycle.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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Message 24 of 308 (671167)
08-22-2012 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Buzsaw
08-22-2012 8:25 AM


Re: Get The Whole True[/i] Story From Fox
Which is the case with most of you political ignorant Obama sheeple who blindly
From the FAQ:
The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect.
Apparently this principle applies to the sincerely held belief that others ought to be treated with disrespect.
Keep on Buzzin' dude.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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Message 29 of 308 (671272)
08-23-2012 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Coragyps
08-23-2012 1:10 PM


Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
Check out the bottom line....
quote:
He’s going to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the UN, Lubbock County Judge Tom Head said this week on a Fox News television station in the north Texas Panhandle region. Then what happens? I’m thinking worst-case scenario -- civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war maybe.
We’re talking take up arms and get rid of the guy, he said. Obama’s response? ``He’s going to send in UN troops. I don’t want them in Lubbock.
Head offered the scenarios as partial justification for a 1.7 percent property-tax increase to hire more deputies and add other law-enforcement resources.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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NoNukes
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Message 48 of 308 (671619)
08-28-2012 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Artemis Entreri
08-28-2012 12:47 PM


Re: Foolish Democrats
We though when they denied the cardinals' blessing that it was some seperation of church and state thing, turns out its cause they are supporting the POTUS' religion instead.
Today's Washington Times reports that Cardinal Dolan is giving the benediction at the DNC.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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NoNukes
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Message 50 of 308 (671623)
08-28-2012 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Artemis Entreri
08-28-2012 1:17 PM


Silly birther nonsense...
They must have finally responded after all the bad press they were recieving.
Or the DNC never turned down the Cardinal Dolan to begin with. The Posts says that Obama "turned down a chance" when the reality is that the only thing to report was that Dolan had offered and had not yet gotten an answer back.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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NoNukes
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Message 52 of 308 (671627)
08-28-2012 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Artemis Entreri
08-28-2012 1:35 PM


gnored him, blew him off, snubbed him, denied him, turned him down....really what is the difference? oh yeah you just post here on semantics, my bad.
None of those things happened. Cardinal Dolan offered to do the benediction and his offer has been accepted. The difference between what actually happened and a snub/denial is the added spin. If the answer wasn't no, then it was not a denial. If the cardinal was not offended, or the delay was not unreasonable then it wasn't a snub.
For you, there may be no difference.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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NoNukes
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Message 54 of 308 (671663)
08-28-2012 10:57 PM


Speaking of lying liars,,,
Mitt Romney Campaign: We Will Not 'Be Dictated By Fact-Checkers' | HuffPost Latest News
Mitt Romney Campaign: We Will Not 'Be Dictated By Fact-Checkers'
quote:
Mitt Romney's campaign said on Tuesday that its ads attacking President Obama's waiver policy on welfare have been its most effective to date. And while the spots have been roundly criticized as lacking any factual basis, the campaign said it didn't really care.
"We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers," Romney pollster Neil Newhouse said at a panel organized by ABC News. This is a different standard than the one Romney himself has held up for the election-season ad wars.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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Message 67 of 308 (671706)
08-29-2012 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Artemis Entreri
08-29-2012 4:43 PM


Re: No thanks man.
The irony is strong in this one.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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NoNukes
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Message 79 of 308 (671836)
08-30-2012 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by subbie
08-30-2012 2:33 PM


Re: You know it's bad when even Fox News can spot right wingnut lies
A few more words
quote:
On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.
Ouch.
Paul Ryan’s speech in 3 words | Fox News
But Sally Kohn is no a female version of Glen Beck. Here is her blog.
http://sallykohn.com/
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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Message 83 of 308 (672057)
09-02-2012 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Theodoric
09-02-2012 3:53 PM


Re: Lyin' Ryan
Perhaps these numbers will provide some perspective.
quote:
Runner’s World has some great statistics on other national candidates that have faster times than Ryan, including the last GOP vice presidential candidate, Sarah Palin, who has a best time of 3:59.
John Edwards has run 3:30 and George W. Bush has run 3:44, while Al Gore is slower than Ryan with a 4:58.
Some amount of "puffing" is expected from politicians, but what on earth would motivate Ryan to spew out a lie about something like this? What would he say if I asked him how much he benched? If your staff had vetted this man, would not such a lie cause you to call the vetting squad back in?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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NoNukes
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Message 96 of 308 (672152)
09-04-2012 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by Jon
09-03-2012 7:58 PM


Re: Lyin' Ryan
Of course, there is no reason I can see why this lie should get more attention
The marathon time 'embellishment' gets special attention because the lie is indefensible, needless, and stupid. Incidentally, most people don't try to pass off bogus fish stories as fact, and essentially nobody lies about their marathon times.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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NoNukes
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Message 102 of 308 (672645)
09-10-2012 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by Taz
09-10-2012 3:41 AM


Flip-boy,
Can't really blame him for doing this.
It turns out that you cannot actually get elected to a national office if you stick to the Republican platform. If your actually try to run on being against abortion to the point where you are willing to kill the mom, label a college education as being for elitists only despite having one yourself, and trashing half or more of the population economically, and you think clean water/air and arctic ice are luxuries for liberals, then you lose. Unfortunately Republicans must appeal to the to the wing-nuts, coal miners, and fundies to get nominated.
And of course the Romney is great at making course adjustments. That's what makes him electable.
If elected, Romney will have very little say in what replaces the AFA. His party hates his ideas re health care.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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Message 117 of 308 (672844)
09-11-2012 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Jon
09-10-2012 11:17 PM


Apparently the word 'pre-existing' wasn't taught in the third-grade class Romney dropped out of in order to have more time to devote to his campaigning.
If you change jobs you may be faced with having to get insurance again and finding that what was covered by your old insurer is indeed a pre-existing condition as far as your new insurer is concerned.
Oops...
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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NoNukes
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Message 119 of 308 (672846)
09-11-2012 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by jar
09-11-2012 7:37 PM


Only if you can find a job that offers health care.
Health insurance need not come from an employee plan.
But the idea is that a break in employment, which is the situation that Romney was talking about, can bring up the issue of pre-existing conditions.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw

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