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Not a huge Obama fan myself. Nor a Romney fan. However what is wrong with being a community organizer? The civil rights movement was led by one of the most prominent 'community organizers', Martin Luther King, Jr. Your attempt to demonize being a community organizer falls flat.As far as redistributionalist, every politician (and just about every American) is a redistributionalist to one degree or another, including Mitt Romney. Both Social Security and Medicare are redistribution systems. Earned Income Credit (enacted in 1975 and expanded on by the Republicans in Reagan's administration) and other tax incentives also are redistributive in one way or another. Yet, I don't hear Republicans and conservatives wanting to end either one. No, in fact, they are making claims that Obama and his democrats are undermining these very same redistributive programs with the new health program.If you want to defend your position for supporting Romney I would suggest you go to another source beside the ridiculously ignorant Fox 'News' Network.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

Is that a 'thing' now? The US goverment has always been 'redistributionalist'. Helping the poor, elderly, disabled etc. Creating infrastructure, schools, police, fire departments etc., thus creating the platform which enables individuals to succeed.At the GOP National Convention, Paul Ryan (wrongfully) accused Obama of cutting huge amount of funds from Medicare, an obviously 'redistributionalist' institution, and used that as an argument AGAINST Obama. Wheres your rage?If you want a really free market, where goverment dosent intervene in private business enterprises if you got the money, go to Somalia. I'd like to see you succeed there.Edited by rbp, : No reason given.Edited by rbp, : No reason given.Edited by rbp, : No reason given.

This puppet says one thing and this puppet says another thing. Who cares? It's all fake.Coke claims to be better than Pepsi and vice versa, but when it comes down to it, they are both carbonated water with fructose that destroy your body. Does it really matter that you drink the one that you think tastes better?- OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

I haven't watched Fox in a long time, and I haven't watched it regularly in about 10 years.Just another thing you're wrong about, eh?

Right, it's not like Obama's ever been President, or anything.Oh, wait.

Coyote says: Coyote - you don't see that the left side argues there's a whole lot more than being a very successful businessperson in life, when it comes to evaluating the best things that have occurred in your life - even if you happen to be an atheist. In fact, when it comes to assessing qualities for the President, business experience is a negative quality. In fact, something like "community organizer" is far more an indicator of good qualifications.Originally I wanted to say something about the perils of pride, but that's different thread.

Two wrongs don't make a right But seriously, these are ridiculous points that Fox news brings out all the time. Which is why I equated the two. You sound like what Fox regurgitates all the time. I listen to Sean Hannity purely out of boredom and to get a chuckle (I commute nearly 50 miles to work a day). And he mindlessly repeats these same points (Obama is a 'community organizer' and a redistributionalist) as well as many others. These ridiculously stupid 'factoids' are effectively a mantra for the Republican party.

I disagree completely.The US government is the biggest "business" there is, and having "organized" folks to picket and protest on a block or two in a big city is just not a good qualification. I think this has been proven over the last nearly four years.The "fail" is strong in this one.

They happen to be accurate, no matter who says them.As for Hannity, the last time I watched him I think Colmes was still there.

Yes Obama was a community organizer, so what. What is wrong with being a community organizer? He helped establish a job training program and other vital programs for Chicago residents. Famous community organizers have been Martin Luther King Jr., Saul Alinsky, Ralph Nader and Cesar Chavez. What are the benefits of community organizers? Civil Rights, universal suffrage, 8 hour work days, the weekend, the Freedom of Information Act, etc, etc. Probably some of the best experience working with and helping everyday working people is through being a community organizer.Obama was also a civil rights attourney and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago for 12 years and served in the Illinoise senate for 7 years. Also, noteworthy achievements.And again, even you Coyote are a redistributionalist, unless you don't pay taxes and do not plan to use Social Security or Medicare.

Governemnt is not a business. The purpose of government is not to make a profit.

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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Nothing there about profit or running a business. You will notice it says "general welfare" not welfare of the elites. If the founders wanted that they would have created an aristocratic class. No it isn't it is a Constitution-based federal republic.
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a person, partnership, or corporation engaged in commerce, manufacturing, or a service; profit-seeking enterprise or concern.

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Source Though you are trying to be insulting all you are doing is exposing your own ignorance and prejudice. Community organizers are important people in most communities in the USA. They do amazing work. Stunning, absolutely stunning.Edited by Theodoric, : government instead of business

Here's a funny bit that says pretty much the same thing. I am also quite cynical when it comes to politics, there just seems to be no good answer.HBD

I guess Martin Luther King, Jr was an abysmal failure since he was a community organizer. If you are religious, the best known example of a community organizer, Jesus, was also a failure .Besides, his experience as community organizer was just shy of 3 years fm 1985 to 1988. You have not even mentioned his more recent accomplishments: 12 years teaching constitutional law at the University of Chicago and as a civil right attourny, 7 years as a state senator and 3 years a US senator.Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

Nice try. Our current president does not compare in any way to MLK. Nor to Jesus. He was undistinguished in all of those. But he was not a true failure until he reached the presidency. He has failed on jobs, the economy, debt levels, and illegal immigration, to name a few. OK, one more--foreign policy.Are you better off than you were 6 trillion dollars ago?

http://www.latimes.com/...undraiser-20120922,0,2317962.storyRomney is even further out of touch with reality than we had realized.Edited by nwr, : provide subtitle