do Christians want their values enforced on everyone by law?

Damn that's funny.According to that, the Protestant Revolution was rebelling against "what God had isntituted." Guess all the Evangelicals should head back to the Catholic Church, huh? Or how about the American Revolution? Should we still be part of England, since England was "the authority" and the colonies rebelled?And Iraq may have been a "threat to the stability of the democratic world." Maybe. Saddam certainly didn't like us. But he didn't actually militarily attack the US, and neither has it been shown that he materially supported any such attack on the US. It was a pre-emptive strike for no actual reason other than "we think you might do something in the future, but have no proof." It would be like sentencing somebody to life in prison becasue you think he might commit a murder someday, and have no actual evidence to support this claim other than that he's said "I wish so-and-so was dead."

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Every time a fundy breaks the laws of thermodynamics, Schroedinger probably kills his cat.

Christ smashed up the money lender tables in the tmple.He also was builled as the warrior king who was to lead Israel to a military civtory over it's enemies.I'd say that's pretty political.

Your question is well taken and makes a good point since the term Christianity can refer to some very secularist thinking folks. You might want to make that point for those who've lumped all Christians as wanting theocracy as well. My point was meant to convey that most of us want don't want a theocracy. That the more secularist folks work for different laws in government than the more non secularist ones is a given. The implications in this thread made that we less secularist Christians want a theocracy is false in that it's government that imposes laws and we all work to promote laws more suited to our ideology.

No it isn't.In the context of this discussion, "secularist" applies to secular government. There is no question of "more" or "less" secularist because there is no question of more or less religious involvement in government. The secularists want no religious involvement in government.So, most Christians are secularists for the purpose of this discussion.

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The implications in this thread made that we less secularist Christians want a theocracy is false in that it's government that imposes laws and we all work to promote laws more suited to our ideology.

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Again, buz, if you like the fact that all citizens of the US enjoy freedom of religious expression, then you should be supporting the secularists.Why do you think it's OK for people to pass laws which would, by law, impose their religious views on you?

Christians are big on God giving us free will.
Would we be happy to take free will away from others.NORegards
DL

Many people like myself have brought this up before.Imagine that I am a big bad gangsta. My gangsta brothers have captured you and is now ready to torture you for our amusement. We present you with 2 boxes to open. One is red and one is blue. We tell you that you have the "free will" to open which ever box you want. However, if you don't open the red box, we'll chop your fingers off, tie a string to your testicles, and drag you behind our car until your testicles are ripped out.Is it really free will we have been granted if we are threatened with eternal damnation in the lake of fire for not choosing what god wanted us to choose?I've never been able to understand this free will thing. How the hell is it free will if you suffer greatly for not making the correct choice, like believing in the creator? Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

I would think that message 66 and 67 are exactly on topic.
I bow before the master.
If Christians want free choice then we have the responsibility of allowing and enforcing free will for all.Regards
DL