Peanut Gallery: Ice Age is a Product of the Flood

I am interested to see what arguments the participant will bring up after the first round of exchanges. Were this not a great debate, I agree that the resulting dog-pile would end the discussion in a hurry. But perhaps if Coyote ties one hand behind his back as AdminMoose would prefer, we'll see something new.

But the premise of the Great Debate is that the Ice Age is a flood effect. If so then the flood did leave traces.

Actually it is not my conclusion at all. It is the point that Mellark is attempting to make.

But what we should require is a flood during the time period when there were people around. A flood 3-4 billion years ago would not qualify.

Paul counted them already.From Gen 7:13

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In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;

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If you exclude Noah's sons for the reason that they add no genes not possessed by their parents, the count is 5.Nonetheless I see your miscount has received a cheer.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

He is making some errors, but perhaps some of his questions have a point. Coyote seems inclined to be patient with him. I think we should be too. Engaging the peanut gallery is a mistake.You cannot really Gish Gallop effectively in a written debate on a limited subject because you are going to get called on it.I disagree with Percy on one thing. There used to be a huge "August" effect back in the '90s, when freshmen got to college found the internet and usenet for the first time, but nowadays August seems to be year round.

Lol...Creationist always complain about dogpiles, so I assumed that a dogpile is worse than having a single person blow you up.Still, in past discussions I haven't seen anyone give a real good evidence based description of the cause(s) for ice ages. Perhaps that would leave an opening for an accomplished debater to give Coyote some difficulty.

I didn't say I thought Coyote should lose.But in this debate, refuting the flood using some of the most common approaches isn't really the way I would expect the discussion would go. I would expect the thread to discuss the link between an ice age and a flood of whatever type the OP defends.Of course, it is possible that we've seen the last of the OP.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.