Phat writes:
How does one
study intelligent design apart from studying intelligence itself?
But that is precisely what I am proposing be researched. You have claimed that preaching requires access to something beyond one's "own intellect and opinion".
I am suggesting that if you can communicate with this intelligent being such that you are able to transcend your "own intellect and opinion" then rather than merely preaching why not apply this ability in such a way as to conclusively demonstrates that you can actually transcend your "own intellect and opinion".
Why not use this ability of yours to reveal a testable truth that your intellect and opinion could not possibly have arrived at? This would give far more objective credence to claims of communicating with the "divine" than any amount of preaching wouldn't it?
Straggler writes:
hypothetically a hypothetical human could obtain as much knowledge as a hypothetical creator.
Phat writes:
I think you are either overestimating hypothetical humans ability to create or you are underestimating the power...never mind possibility...of a hypothetical Designer apart from humanity.
Why are hypothetical humans any more (or less) limited than hypothetical creators?
Phat writes:
The intellect without acknowledgement of a Designer is outside of communion. The intellect that acknowledges the possibility of a Designer is in communion. Problem?
Well as an initial problem that leaves someone who acknowledges the philosophical possibility of a creator but who sees no reason to think such a thing actually exists in some sort of communion limbo.
But if you are genuinely in communion with some sort of superior being why not demonstrate this ability of yours in a testable way (e.g. that described above)?