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mram10
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Message 231 of 285 (735488)
08-16-2014 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by Jackal32
08-14-2014 11:43 AM


Re: The hardware is the software
Jackal32,
First, welcome. You will learn a lot here, while feeling like you are swimming upstream if you debate against evolutionary theory

Dr. Adequate is the resident sarcasm expert. Think of the two older guys in the balcony on the muppet show


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mram10
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Message 233 of 285 (735493)
08-16-2014 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by Coyote
02-16-2013 11:16 PM


Re: the answer?
And what if there is some kind of natural universal energy field out there, of which all living things partake?

And what if evidence were to be found of such an energy field? Conclusive evidence? Evidence that we could communicate with such a universal field?

What do you think the reaction of the world's 40,000+ different religions, sects, denominations, etc. would be? You think they would say, "Aha! Now we have found the TRUTH at last?"

Not a chance. There are too many egos involved, and too many folks making a good living. And too much belief in unevidenced dogma. There would be lots of good old fashioned "burnings at the stake" over such a discovery. And probably a few thousand more schisms. (That's what you get when you rely on belief instead of evidence.)

Reminds me of Heinlein's comment, "Belief gets in the way of learning."

Coyote,
I almost thought you were describing the secular science community and their attachment to Darwinism and the theory of evolution. Maybe both sides can put away their love/hate of God and look for truth.

Tesla,
Where are you? I really enjoyed reading your posts. Keep them coming.

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mram10
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Message 235 of 285 (735499)
08-16-2014 5:33 PM
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08-16-2014 4:49 PM


Re: the answer?
I enjoy your comments that add absolutely nothing to the conversation

I have worked with individuals that like to hear themselves spew vitriol, while adding absolutely nothing of value. Maybe because they feel "inadequate"

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mram10
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Message 244 of 285 (735555)
08-17-2014 10:32 PM


No arguments here about species evolving. It has limits though. Argue with me all you want on your beliefs, but you need to stop calling it "fact" when you assume we came from elements billions of years ago, with no external help. There is NO evidence to that, simply theory.

So, we agree that things evolve. We disagree on the limits.


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mram10
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Message 250 of 285 (735758)
08-23-2014 6:29 PM


How do you know that life started as simple organisms?? How "simple" is the most simple organism? With the increase in knowledge and technology, we know that no life is simple.

It is funny that you call your stance a "theory" and my stance a "belief". You have no proof, but you have a very interesting story that tries to dispense with a higher power. Look under a microscope once in a while and study the complexity of the most "simple" forms of life without bias

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Message 256 of 285 (735810)
08-25-2014 7:14 PM
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08-23-2014 8:04 PM


Re: more signs of willful ignorance
If you have proof that life started from elements with no help from an ID/God, please show me. Not theory, but proof.
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Message 257 of 285 (735811)
08-25-2014 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 253 by Omnivorous
08-23-2014 11:10 PM


Re: more signs of willful ignorance
Are military members and sales people more apt to oppose the theory of ev?
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