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Author Topic:   The US Gov't is Guilty of Murder
nwr
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Message 11 of 318 (672022)
09-01-2012 7:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dogmafood
09-01-2012 9:26 AM


Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? How is this not murder?
I don't like what we are doing in that part of the world. Nevertheless, this does not fit the normal meaning of "murder."
I am not in a position to second guess current policy. I was opposed to our invasion of Afghanistan, though I would have supported a quick raid to attack terrorist cells (and then leave). However, we are there now, like it or not. At least Obama seems to be attempting to extricate us from that situation.
We are causing less civilian casualty than we did in Iraq. And, as jar suggests in Message 10, we may well be causing fewer casualties than if we had used the methods from prior eras.
If the war hawks of the Republican party have their way in the next election, then the rate of innocent deaths will rise sharply.

Jesus was a liberal hippie

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nwr
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Message 23 of 318 (672037)
09-01-2012 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by NoNukes
09-01-2012 11:35 PM


Re: Reprehensible reasoning...
It occurs to me that not a single Chinese person was murdered by government soldiers during the Tiananmen Square incident of 1989, despite the fact that up to 1000 people died of high velocity lead poisoning.
That seems correct to me.
The Chinese government was criticized for human rights violations, not for murder.

Jesus was a liberal hippie

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