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The world surely gasps at the murderous actions of the US. Unfortunately, too many americans are either FOR drone assassinations, or are ambiguous/justify/make unilateral exceptions for the US. Keep in mind the two party system which american's support, are war mongers. Neither party campaigns to slash military spending to reasonable levels. America spends on its military nearly as much as all of the countries of the world combined, yet sees fit to squeeze social programs.However, not all americans view drone assassinations with lust or apathy . . .

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Obama's newest critic: Jimmy Carter

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Carter adds: "Revelations that top officials are targeting people to be assassinated abroad, including American citizens, are only the most recent, disturbing proof of how far our nation's violation of human rights has extended."

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Obama's newest critic: Jimmy CarterHow bad does Obama have to suck to cause a fellow democrat to harshly criticize?And if war criminals Blair and Bush Jr. are ever indicted at Hague, Obama's war crimes won't be left standing for long . . .

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Desmond Tutu says Blair, Bush should be 'made to answer' for Iraq

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South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu said Sunday that Tony Blair and George W. Bush should be "made to answer" at the International Criminal Court for their actions around the Iraq war.

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Desmond Tutu says Blair, Bush should be 'made to answer' for Iraq | CNN

I am guessing Tangle meant these type of examples:1. Carlos Andreas Perez
2. Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozado
3. Roberto Bravo
4. Luis Posada
5. 13 CIA operatives who abducted Khaled el-Masri
6. CIA station Chief for kidnapping Abu OmarEdited by dronester, : clarity

The consequence of actions that might not be considered "criminal" by an aggressor nation is called blowback. Perhaps you remember this: (Even though the weapons used on 9/11 were of old technology, I gotta say, I still remain uncomfortable with them.)Edited by dronester, : No reason given.

And it will continue when bad men support war criminals . . . and it will also continue when good men do nothing.

There seems to be some sick but needed reason in many (most?) individuals to disassociate all the actions that precipitated 9/11 .Crash, Panda, CS: It was america's continued criminal actions that caused THIS blowback: I would have thought that the lesson learned would have been clear: "Stop doing harm in the world or else it is revisited to oneself." Yet, today, america continues its criminal actions via drones setting up yet another violent act of blowback.Look at the following photos. It's impossible for me to imagine drone use and ALL its subsequent violence as somehow the "lesser of evils." Yet, when you defend the use of drone missiles, as you are in this thread, . . . you do.

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Syed Wali Shah Age7 Killed In CIA Pakistan Drone Attack
The CIA’s drone campaign targeting suspected militants in Pakistan has killed dozens of civilians who had gone to rescue victims or were attending funerals.

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Murdering bastards kill with drone robots!! – The FreeFrom other drone attacks: Edited by dronester, : clarity

But surely you don't also believe international laws, signed treaties, and the Geneva conventions silly?

I have no idea what your referring to. Bush Jr. and Tony Blair said 9/11 happened because "the terrorists hate our freedoms". Is that what you believe? if not, then what? Oh, okay. If you say so, I'll just stop then.

Oh c'mon now. You know you secretly love me and my fancy $50 haircuts. Au contraire. I wish I could post EVERY photo of EVERY child that american drones have killed. So far hundreds. A pity I don't even have their names. But the US military doesn't keep tabs on those 'worthless details.' America just can't be bothered.The Vietnam war came to a quicker conclusion because americans tired of seeing the carnage from their actions on the television (see napalm victim below). Since today's conflicts are "invisible," americans don't even consider the american atrocities: False dichotomy. You are using Rhavin's sad and erroneous argument for pro-atom bomb use in WWII. That argument was quickly dispensed by Mod, Caffeine and I. Before even considering many other options, how about legitimizing the reason for the violent conflict to begin with? You still do not want to acknowledge that blowbacks are a consequence of doing criminal/immoral actions. The following picture shows one such blowback. To continue the drones will inevitably cause another severe blowback and greatly put the world at risk for more 'terrorist' attacks. We KNOW this. It HAS happened (review the picture below). That IS the cost of drone use. You are apparently considering that the following consequence is still the lesser evil conclusions of drone use. It is not acceptable to me. It apparently IS acceptable to Crash, Panda, and you:

There are many rules of engagement. Not bombing a hospital. Not torturing children. Not using a disproportionate amount of force. Not causing collective punishment for the many because of only the few.I would suggest you Google the Nuremberg trials and the results of the consequences for not adhering to the rules of engagement.

Really? Not using a disproportionate amount of force, not causing collective punishment for the many because of only the few, nor not harming children?Well, then how about just targeting civilians?

I didn't think I needed to explicitly state this but: 9/11 was very bad, and the people responsible (Saudis, not Iraqis) should have been held responsible. I wonder why not . . .

How about we FIRST confirm that ANY force is required. That ANY action is indeed legitimate. And who do you suggest would label the person a terrorist to begin with? If you are desperate to score some kind of technical victory, I'll be happy to concede for you. As a matter of fact, change your avatar back to Sharon Stone, and you might even think I have a drone missile in my pocket.

Do you understand and think similar actions that Israel takes against Palestinians have also produced successful outcomes?

Please calm down Ringo. Read my entire paragraph. It was a silly joke. I don't really have a drone missile in my pocket.Actually, this is a very depressing subject for me. At work, several years ago, I needed to create a desk aid to help social workers determine child abuse. In it, were actual case photos of dozens of physically abused children. Because the colours of the injuries needed to be exact, I needed to retouch them over several days. I felt sick at the end of each day. I felt similarly when I researched and posted the dead children photos for my previous message. My silly asides are my way to handle the depression of this topic.

The american military budget is about 1.2 TRILLION dollars a year (including hidden costs). The profits from escalating drone missile use are rising dramatically. Yes, I agree with you, there certainly is some kind of military goal.