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My approach to this question is slightly different than most. Instead of arguing back and forth about this sediment or that, I prefer to get to the meat of the issue. There is simply no evidence that can falsify the YEC flood models. The evidence doesn't matter when talking to someone who supports the flood model. Their mind was already made up BEFORE they saw the evidence.How do I know this? All you need to do is ask a very simple question: What features must a geologic formation have in order to falsify a recent globa flood? I have yet to find a YEC who can answer this, and that is why YEC flood models are a farce. They are unfalsifiable.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

It is a scientific dispute, not an ideological one. If these flood models are scientific then they need to be falsifiable. If we want to understand the facts then we need a scientific model.So what facts would you need to see in order to conclude that a recent global flood did not occur? How would you go about answering that question?

Why don't we find modern species in either of these deposits? Why can't we find modern wading birds or modern mammals in these deposits? We can't even find flowering plants in either of those deposits. Why is that?How does a flood sort fossils in a way that reflects post flood survival? Why is it that those buried deepest in the fossil record had the least chance of living after the flood? Surely some of those plants would include flowering plants, would they not? Why can't we find any?

It would be very refreshing to see the evidence that these layers were laid down by a global flood. All we have so far is empty assertions that start with "I believe . . .". Where is the evidence? What we don't have is humans and dinosaurs in the same strata. Why is that? We can find humans and bison together. We can find humans and mammoths together. So why not humans and dinosaurs in the same strata?

That is the great question about creationism. Is it falsifiable? In other words, is it scientific?We can make this much more general than just the P/T boundary. In your opinion, what features would a geologic formation need in order to falsify a recent global flood? How is flood geology falsifiable?

So what features would a geologic feature need in order to falsify a recent global flood? How is flood geology falsifiable. No one here is saying that a global flood is impossible in principle. What we are saying is that the evidence does not support a recent global flood. Those are two different things.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Where can we find a single flowering plant in the Carboniferous, swamp land or not? Why can't we find a single modern mammal in Carboniferous deposits? Why can't we find a single bird species in Carboniferous deposits?

There are floods in modern flood plains right now, but there is obviously no global flood. Why would you need a global flood to have floods on floodplains?What about terrestrial deposits at the P/T boundary? Why are they there? If what you claim is true, then we should not find terrestrial deposits on both sides of the P/T boundary, and yet we do.

That could be said about every geologic age since aquatic environments produce sediments. Finding aquatic sediments ine one place does not indicate a GLOBAL flood.We also have terrestrial deposits at the P/T boundary, both above and below. Doesn't that clearly falsify a global flood at the P/T boundary? There is flooding in the Bahamas today due to a hurricane. Does that mean it is flooding everywhere on Earth today?

Where do you have evidence of this?

What evidence led you to that belief?Wouldn't the humans present before the flood also leave evidence that we can find in sediments? Shouldn't we be able to find pre-flood arroheads or stone tools at least? Potshards?

So what observations would falsify a flood at the P/T boundary? Or does it even matter what the evidence is?Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Angiosperms are just the tip of the iceberg. The entire fossil record in the Carboniferous is a major problem. There are simply no modern species including no mammals, no birds, no reptiles, etc.