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Message 152 of 503 (676757)
10-25-2012 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by mindspawn
10-25-2012 8:36 AM


Re: WTF?
mindspawn writes:
I should have rather referred to recent civilizations not current ones (before the fascination with evolution over the last few hundred years.)
Would you like some examples of earlier civilizations that have artwork based on extinct skeletal remains?

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 156 of 503 (676765)
10-25-2012 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by mindspawn
10-25-2012 8:56 AM


Re: WTF?
mindspawn writes:
Yes I would, but only from the last 1000 years. Any earlier then you would be making my point for me, that dinosaurs could have recently become extinct.
But that is not your argument - that is simply your claim: humans and dinosaurs co-existed.
Your argument is that images of dinosaurs proves that dinosaurs and humans co-existed.
This is clearly not true, as Dr. A's images show.
Your argument has been invalidated.
Your claim is unsupported.
{abe}
And here's a statue from around 1000AD:
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"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 162 of 503 (676781)
10-25-2012 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by mindspawn
10-25-2012 9:24 AM


Re: WTF?
mindspawn writes:
So yes my point was not 100% conclusive.
It was not even 1% conclusive: your point was shown to be invalid.
mindspawn writes:
Moving on, what about carbon dating dinosaur bones, recent dates were found through carbon dating that contradict the standard view on their ages:
How reliable is that web-page?
I suspect that ScienceVsEvolution.com have an axe to grind.
For example: they think that C-14 carbon dating (which only dates items up-to ~50,000 years old) would produce an age other than ~50,000 years.
(They also think that Dr. Walter Libby invented radio-carbon dating. *shrug*)
There are limitations to each method of measurement. To ignore them is stupid.
e.g. Take a grain of salt and measure its width with a ruler or its weight with your bathroom scales.
Weighing a car with kitchen scales is stupid.
And dating dinosaurs bones using C-14 is just as stupid.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Message 164 of 503 (676784)
10-25-2012 9:54 AM
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10-25-2012 9:44 AM


Re: WTF?
mindspawn writes:
Nice pictures. so you believe those Bolivians found a completely intact dinosaur skeleton and created a statue? Like I said, I guess that's possible that those primitive people could recreate an accurate statue from some bones. Good point!
Yes, they could have found a skeleton.
Or they could have just imagined it.
People have drawn 'dinosaur-looking' animals throughout history.
To arbitrarily claim that images from 2000 years ago are of extant dinosaurs but images from 1000 years ago are of extinct dinosaurs makes no sense, and simply assumes your conclusion - i.e. circular reasoning.
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Message 199 of 503 (676976)
10-26-2012 6:39 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by mindspawn
10-26-2012 6:27 AM


Re: Bones and the flood
Again - another link filled with lies and misrepresentations.
"Actual red blood cells in fossil bones from a Tyrannosaurus rex?": No.
"With traces of the blood protein hemoglobin (which makes blood red and carries oxygen)?": Nope.
"It sounds preposterousto those who believe that these dinosaur remains are at least 65 million years old.": Not only preposterous, but also untrue.
Seriously, stop believing these links without at least checking the original data.
(I find it indicative of deceit when that web-site does not have any links to external verification of it's claims.)
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Message 242 of 503 (677343)
10-29-2012 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 241 by Coragyps
10-29-2012 9:41 AM


Coragyps writes:
Obviously you never could, as the Worldwide Atheistic Geologist Cabal has already decided it must be suppressed.....
...who are secretly funded by The Global Stalinist Communist Evolutionist Marxist Brigade of Nazi Baby Killers!

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Message 335 of 503 (679916)
11-16-2012 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 329 by mindspawn
11-16-2012 5:02 AM


Hi mindspawn,
mindspawn writes:
I had to go back and read through all your posts to find out why you wrote that. It's because the sons of God descended from heaven to fuck human women, yes? Thus enlarging our gene pool, right?
But this doesn't happen any more, apparently. The Bible just stops mentioning them. Did God, so to speak, ground his sons at some point, and say: "OK, no more descending from heaven, you just do it to chase after human ass. I'm taking away the keys of your Heavenmobile"? One has to wonder.
yeah it seemed to stop soon after the flood. who knows who the sons of god are, its sometimes translated as angels, some people see them as aliens (other race-groups in the universe). Others have a simple more practical view that a certain group built a more sophisticated civilization (let's call it Atlantis) and these men because of superior technology were known as gods. Just the fact that the bible is open on the topic, and fairly unclear, makes the biblical view on humans non dependent on a bottleneck situation.
So the lack of a genetic bottleneck in humans is due to the sons of god impregnating humans, yes?
Did the same sons of god impregnate all the animals which also do not have a genetic bottleneck?
(And what did the cheetahs do wrong?)
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"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 361 of 503 (680438)
11-19-2012 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 349 by mindspawn
11-19-2012 11:54 AM


mindspawn writes:
hey maybe there were alien bulls too pregnating cows..
Is that your final answer?

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Message 403 of 503 (680573)
11-20-2012 6:44 AM
Reply to: Message 398 by mindspawn
11-20-2012 5:31 AM


Re: Bones and the flood
mindspawn writes:
On the contrary these dolphin like Ichthyosaurs are warm blooded and have live young, not conforming to biological classification of reptiles at all.
So - this skink is not a reptile as it gives birth to live young:
.
But this skink is a reptile as it lays eggs:
Well, I am glad we cleared that up.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 412 of 503 (680592)
11-20-2012 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 405 by mindspawn
11-20-2012 7:41 AM


Re: Bones and the flood
mindspawn writes:
Yeah the first one looks a lot like Dr A's monkey. clearly a mammal!
Are you retracting your "...have live young, not conforming to biological classification of reptiles at all" statement?
If you like, we can move on the the 'warm-blooded' aspect of your claim after this.
mindspawn writes:
Panda if you reading this - its a joke
I would have preferred it if you had not ducked the issue.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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