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Author Topic:   Do We NEED God?
Genologist
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Message 16 of 224 (673500)
09-19-2012 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Phat
09-19-2012 2:56 PM


Re: God, by definition
This all depends on how God is defined. If we go strictly by the book,(the good book, of course ) than yes. The general idea is that imperfect humans will eventually fail and that the savior will return to save His own.(who, by the way, are "whosoever". )There is no excuse that God picks His favorites, given that whosoever believes will be saved.) This only poses a problem for those who refuse to believe.
Quite right. But in answer to the question do we "need" God? In many respects the first part of the answer is NO, not in this life anyway, not in the sense that a cow can survive on impoverished grass (but would thrive on, lush green grass). You can go through this life "apparently" quite fine as an atheist, I don't even think you need God to fulfill certain goals, indeed there are several examples of atheists who on the surface acheive a lot, Christians believe that "they that build the house without the Lord labour in vain" (Psalm 127:1), we have all done stuff in vain when we do not include God in our plans.- The truth for a Christian is that to each (everybody, even athiests) is given a measure of faith. It is what we do with that faith that counts. Faith is like a muscle with the genetic potential to grow really big, we must "exercise" it ie sincerely and persistently seek after the truth with an open heart. Conversely if we don't our spirits will remain dormant and in a state of "atrophy". So in short you don't strictly need God in this life, but you may never achieve fulfilment or your real purpose, therefore you are always empty, always wanting. Of course atheists will hotly dispute this so your question is loaded . The second part of my answer is YES we do absolutely need God in this life at least for the next, and yes we can acheive great things for our fellow man, for nations with the help and conviction of God, indeed every nation that has ever been founded on Christian values has been great, but we need an active, sincere and truthful relationship. We are primarily spirit beings with a human component, not human beings with a spiritual component, so when we die we are released from the "shackles" of this body and remain purely spirit. Is it worth risking life as an avowed atheist? I don't think so. I often think how terrifying it must be for an atheist in the moments before they die if they know they are dying, the doubt, the terror. No, pursue truth in spirit, not just intellect, although there is plenty of evidence for a Creator around us so that we are not without excuse. Romans 1:19,20.
Edited by Genologist, : to "put" it better

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