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Author Topic:   A Proposed Proof That The Origin of The Universe Cannot Be Scientifically Explained
JonF
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Message 196 of 220 (694390)
03-24-2013 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by designtheorist
03-24-2013 11:04 AM


Re: Improbability and time
Actually, when the odds are higher than one in 10 to the power 50, it is considered mathematically impossible even in infinite time.
Actually, that's known as Borel's Law and you have mangled it in standard creationist fashion. Nobody who understands it claims that when the odds against something are bigger than that it can't happen. Shuffle a deck of 52 cards. Look at the arrangement produced. The odds against that arrangement being produced are much greater than 1050, in fact it's a little bigger than 8*1067.
But there it is. Do you think it's impossible to shuffle a deck of cards?

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JonF
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Message 208 of 220 (694481)
03-25-2013 7:38 AM
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03-24-2013 6:54 PM


Re: Improbability and time
If a random letter generator (not live monkeys because we know that would never work) attempted to reproduce a single Shakespearean sonnet, it would fail even in infinite time.
Nope, as others have pointed out many times. You obviously have no clue when it comes to probability. Please don't make probabilistic claims until you understand some basic probability.

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JonF
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Message 209 of 220 (694482)
03-25-2013 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by designtheorist
03-24-2013 7:27 PM


Re: Improbability and time
That is tenet of faith for some people who belong to the church of chance and infinity. I believe the view is demonstrably false
So demonstrate already.

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Message 217 of 220 (704028)
08-02-2013 7:16 AM
Reply to: Message 216 by nano
08-02-2013 7:12 AM


No, he says we don't know because we don't know. We may never know. Bu that does not mean that it cannot be explained logically. We don't know whether or not it can be explained logically, although many scientists suspect that it can.

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