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RAZD
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Message 256 of 281 (724977)
04-23-2014 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 253 by Ed67
04-23-2014 9:34 AM


Numbers and the old improbable probability problem ...
Wow. This guy was bang on. No wonder you guys got rid of him LOL

And he was appropriately answered by DrA in Message 3 which I reproduce here:

To conclude, I think the chances of a living cell forming from chemicals that just happened to bond, is ridiculously unlikely.

And every biologist in the world agrees with you. That is indeed not how living cells are produced: the chemicals don't "just happen to bond". Well done.

And which I can back up by also referring to the old improbable probability problem which deconstructs the erroneous probability calculation, demonstrating that once again creationists\IDologists misuse science and math either from ignorance, delusion or intent, or just plain stupidity.

... The evidence for an intelligent origin of proteins is the same as the evidence for the intelligent origin of the nucleotide sequence on the original DNA/RNA.

In other words none? Certainly have not seen any evidence of anything other than incredulity here.

I like when numbers come into this discussion. Tends to make the methodological naturalists start dancing, dog and pony shows, and all sorts of entertaining antics to skirt the quantitative issue and hope nobody notices...

And yet you appear incapable of determining that the numbers are erroneous. Curious. Of course this means that you will love the old improbable probability problem ... especially Message 23 on that thread ...

Last night there was a lottery and over 1 million tickets were sold, and a winner was found. Amazing right? Odds of a million to 1 and they won! WOW.

Of course the probability that the lottery would be won was ... 1. Numbers can be used to fool the gullible.

Speaking of which, it's probably just about time for RAZD to make an appearance! (lol just joking).

Bark says Sandy ...

As one of the founding member of the Society Against Gullible Ignorant Silly Thinking (SAGIST), it is my calling to jump to the rescue whenever it raises it's head.

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RAZD
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Message 258 of 281 (724982)
04-23-2014 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 257 by subbie
04-23-2014 10:36 AM


The odds that you were born are 1 in (a hell of a big number, probably a lot bigger than 1 followed by 552 zeros). ...

And that doesn't even take into account the odds of one single sperm (1 out of a lot) meeting up with one single egg (1 out of many) to produce the specific information to be referred to as the "theoretically possible Ed67", and not someone else, some (shudder) other person, which, while being a perfectly valid person would not be Ed67 ...

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we are limited in our ability to understand
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... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ...
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