The Simplest Protein of Life

If there are no fossils how do you prove there was life?

Wouldn't all you would have would be an assumption?

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Because time is a concept of man that he invented to measure duration.

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Why couldn't life have began on earth as Darwin said on page 490 of the 1859 “The Origin of the Species”?

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Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death,
the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving,
namely, the production of the higher animals,
directly follow. There is grandeur in this view of life,
with its several powers, having been originally breathed
into a few forme or into one ; and that, whilst this planet
has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity,
from no simple a beginning endless forms most
beautiful and moat wonderful have been, and are being,
evolved.

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Darwin seemed to think life produced the first life forms on earth.

Science has proven by experiment that life produces life. It also has proven that non-life can not produce life.

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I was referring to all the experiments where they have tried to create life.

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Does radioactive decay need time to know it decays? The answer is no.

For mankind to measure the duration in existence that radioactive decay takes place they need time.

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I don't have any problem with going there.

On the other hand you would not want to go there.

I believe by "FAITH" that God and Jesus exist.

You have to believe by faith that life began to exist as you have no evidence.

Now you are going to tell me that since life exists today it had to begin to exist as we present it to have began it's existence.

But if there is other evidence of how that first life form began to exist other than fossils would you please present it?

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Do you have any evidence of how the simplest protein or life form began to exist?

Since proteins are manufactured by orders that are placed by the DNA in a cell, wouldn't the information in the DNA be required before the protein could begin to exist?

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You can know it exists without knowing how the simplest protein began to exist.

But without knowing how the simplest protein began to exist you can not say whether it is impossible or possible for the simplest protein to begin to exist guided or unguided.

I thought everybody knew the answer to that question.

The chicken came first.

Are you saying the information was not required before the protein could begin to exist?

Whatever that molecule was it had to have the information required to form the first protein.

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DNA carries the genetic information to produce proteins. The DNA carries the information of a cell and consists of thousands of genes. Each gene serves as a recipe on how to build a protein molecule.

The flow of information from the genes determines the protein composition and thereby the functions of the cell.

When a protein is needed the proper gene is transcribed into RNA removing all non-codeing parts.

This information is then transported outside of the nucleus where the information is transcribed creating the specified protein in the ribosome.

This is the known method of creating a protein.

If information is required to produce a protein now why would it not have been required for the first protein?

If information was not supplied for the first protein then all the amino acids had to come together in the correct order by chance, but you say that would be incredibly unlikely.

The question is where did the information come from?

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No.

Length exists.

Humans have devised a series of numbers that they have declared to be the numbers used to measure increments of that length.

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Yes there are those who believe that.

Information theory disagrees with information increasing by modification and selection over time without outside input.

There are many that believe life forms was created by a supernatural being.

Darwin said on page 490 of The Origin of the Species:

quote:

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There is grandeur in this view of life,
with its several powers, having been originally breathed
into a few forme or into one ; and that, whilst this planet
has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity,
from no simple a beginning endless forms most
beautiful and moat wonderful have been, and are being,
evolved.

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Darwin believed some life form produced the life on earth. Whether is was with many life forms or with one.

But you are saying that because things change today by modification and selection over time that life began to exist in the same way.

That is an assumption for which there is no evidence.

And then there is me who believes life has always existed in some form.

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Yes I understand when you have a cell and is replicates it's self that copy errors occur.

But for one error to occur you have to have a living organism that has at least one cell to replicate.

Errors are a natural part of DNA Replication.DNA

DNA has a highly sophisticated means of fixing those errors.

Immediately after replication proofreading takes place where 99% of errors are corrected.

Immediately after proofreading the mismatch repair takes place.
During the mismatch repair cycle the new strand is compared to the old strand and corrected to match the old strand.

Most mutations are bad.
Very few are good.

The only cells that can transfer mutations to the next generation are the ones in the egg or sperm cells.

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Can you produce some information that was generated without a guided process?

If you can please do.

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Well a picture of a snowflake is not information.

There is no blueprint or genetic code that guides the growth of a snowflake, yet marvelously complex structures appear, quite literally out of thin air.

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I understand information theory enough to know that to have a language, information you must have:
A transmitter.
A receiver.

DNA is the transmitter and the ribosome is the receiver.

The information transmitted has alphabet, grammar, meaning and intent.

Every cell in a human body contains all the information needed to build that human body.

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