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Author Topic:   By their fruits shall ye know them. (re: Fundamentalists and the environment)
GDR
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Message 6 of 39 (257334)
11-06-2005 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Omnivorous
11-06-2005 11:05 AM


I’m a Christian and I’m a Conservative. (Canadian, but if I lived in the US I would usually vote Republican.) I think that your OP unfairly critiques the reasons that Christians seem more often than not to vote right of center.
Your post seems to assume that Liberal governments will take better care of the environment than Conservative governments. I contend that governments in general don’t have a good record in this area. In Canada we have a Liberal government that supports the Kyoto treaty. Big deal. All it has given them is the opportunity to make it appear that they are doing something when in fact the problem has only deteriorated during their time in office. Their solution to problems is to throw money at them.
I think that the reason that Christians very often lean to the right is a distrust of big government. I contend that those of us on the right care just as much for the weaker members of society and for the environment as do those on the left. The difference is however that we don’t see large national bureaucracies as an effective way of dealing with these problems. I believe that we are all responsible for our neighbour as individuals and in many cases, (not all by any means) problems can be better dealt with locally,
In Canada our social welfare system is a huge bloated industry. We can’t just have one social welfare program that works. We have a myriad of programs each with its own unionized bureaucracy. Each successive government in an attempt to make it looks like it is doing something, brings in another program, and another bureaucracy.
For example; Canadians have more of an aversion to guns than Americans seem to have. Now keep in mind that we have had for years an effective hand gun registry. Our Liberal government announces that they are going to set up a “gun registry”. This gun registry only applied to long guns. (A fact which the Liberals never point out unless forced to.) The program was to have cost 20 million. The cost is up to 2 billion and still counting, and there has been no discernable difference in gun crimes.
Recently there has been a rash of shootings in Toronto so as usual the Liberals find a scapegoat, and as is so often the case it’s the US. The whole thing gets blamed on guns being smuggled in from the US.
I could go into how the Liberal party has stolen millions form Canadians from money that was meant to buy the allegiance of Quebecers to Canada so that they won’t vote to separate.
Government elitism has taken hold. I have a problem with that. The Liberals are theoretically governing by enlightenment values. As I see it, the trouble is two fold. In reality there are no enlightenment values as such because values, according to enlightenment dogma, are an individual thing as there is no absolute truth. The second problem is that we wind up with people in government that are there because of a quest for power. (It is the same thing that happens if you give the church political power.)
To conclude I contend that Christians are more likely to vote Conservative because of a belief that big government is better at creating problems than it is at solving them.

Everybody is entitled to my opinion.

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