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Message 31 of 231 (675719)
10-15-2012 8:02 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by foreveryoung
10-15-2012 12:49 AM


As I recall, to be provincial is to think in ways that are peculiar to your locality
Open up a dictionary.
It is obvious Larni was using this definition of the word.
quote:
having or showing the manners, viewpoints, etc., considered characteristic of unsophisticated inhabitants of a province; rustic; narrow or illiberal; parochial: a provincial point of view.
Source
You seem to be using a form of equivocation here.

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Message 35 of 231 (675861)
10-16-2012 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by foreveryoung
10-16-2012 1:21 PM


It is stalinist to declare
Do you even know what this term means? Do you know anything about Joseph Stalin?
It still fits my definition of the word.
Ding, ding, ding. Johnny we have a winner. You just admitted that your are using equivocation. Can you at least research the terms a little, so you at least have a basic idea of what you are talking about.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

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Message 49 of 231 (675996)
10-18-2012 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by foreveryoung
10-17-2012 11:58 PM


Foreveyoung needs to educate himself
The western world has been becoming progressively more socialist since the french revolution. There is the common man who lives day to day by the sweat of his brow and then there is the "educated" man who tries to control the "intellectual and cultural world" through his trade. This includes all forms of media and universities and scientific institutions. Anything that influences what a man thinks and believes is a prime target for these "elites". Centralized control of mankind just seems to fit naturally for these "elite" type of people who are not like the common man. They certainly are not adverse to it. Those who wish the world to be controlled by an oligarchy of people who all think alike are not content to just try a few measures here and there. They are aggressive and will not cease from their efforts until their goals are accomplished. This is why you see such consternation and threats of becoming expatriated when someone not of their ilk takes the reigns of power.
Where to start, where to start.
The western world has been becoming progressively more socialist since the french revolution.
Your point? Your basic premise is correct, but not sure why it is an issue. Yes western Europe is more "socialist" now then in 1789. The whole world is more socialist now. Comes from the fact that people have either thrown off the tyranny of monarchies, or just realized there are better forms of government than those that existed in the 18th century. The result of the French revolution was not socialism, an attempt at a republic was attempted. In fact the French Revolutionary period was marked by an extreme rise of the more rightwing elements. Modern socialism wasn't even a concept for another 40 years or so. Instead of spouting assertions, I am making an argument. See how that works.
Those who wish the world to be controlled by an oligarchy of people who all think alike are not content to just try a few measures here and there. They are aggressive and will not cease from their efforts until their goals are accomplished. This is why you see such consternation and threats of becoming expatriated when someone not of their ilk takes the reigns of power.
You really need a class on Political Science as you continue to show that you do not even have a basic grasp of most of the concepts you attempt to make assertions about. You can start by some basic reading on socialism, maybe then you might understand a little bit about what socialism is. This ain't it.
Obama is not a socialist, Obamacare is not a socialist program. If you want to assert such things you need to bring some argument to the table, instead of spouting crap you read on some lameass rightwing website.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 58 of 231 (676177)
10-20-2012 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by foreveryoung
10-20-2012 12:59 AM


Forever hurls insults. Again.
Ahh the Foreveryoung we know and love is back. Personal attacks are all you seem to be good at.
A little equivocation too, I see.
When I say the "educated" man, I mean the propagandized, group thinked, and brainwashed man.
I have never seen this definition of the word before. Could you please cite a source, or is it just something you made up in your head?
There is not one original thought in every last one of you. That is what I am calling "educated".
This is especially funny cause all your "arguments" are stuff you are getting from fundie websites.
I am much more educated in the real sense than any of you robots are or will ever hope to be.
Does "in the real sense" mean knowledge of the "bible"? Cause that ain't true because I have seen your ass kicked here in bible knowledge, and I am pretty sure I could more than hold my own with you on the subject of the bible. And I am an atheist.
Could "in the real sense" be what you think the "bible" says? That would be strange as no one else is going to have those same beliefs and it can easily be shown that those beliefs do not fit reality.
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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 88 of 231 (676609)
10-24-2012 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by foreveryoung
10-24-2012 12:20 AM


Re: Mainstream Media? Really?
You all don't accept the same facts
Maybe you need to give your definition of the word "fact". Cuz, you are obviously using a different definition for the word than the rest of us, and the rest of the world.
I think Inigo Montoya said it best.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 90 of 231 (676938)
10-25-2012 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by foreveryoung
10-25-2012 9:13 PM


Please show evidence Murrow said that
Not surprisingly I do not think you will ever be able to provide an original attribution of this quote to Murrow. If you do you will be the first i can find. I have been questioning people on this since teabaggers have been popularizing it. I have been searching but have not been able to find any evidence to show it is a Murrow quote. But then again we know that that doesnt matter to you.
In actuality it was probably said by French philosopher, political economist, and futurist Bertand Jouvenal. Jouvenal was no liberal.
There is this.
quote:
To have an idea of the curse of existence under (governments of force), they must be seen. It is a government of wolves over sheep.
Letter to James Madison, 1787
This was stated by a liberal with a mindset of which you all are cookie cutter images of. It was stated when the nation generally believed in conservative values. We are still a nation of sheep, but this time there is no liberal spokesman or writer to warn us of a government of wolves because liberals have their form of government in place and therefore it cannot be possibly run by wolves.
Do you know anything about Edward R, Murrow? Or are you parroting again.
Finally what does this have to do with anything we are discussing or is this just more shit you are going to fling against the wall? What the hell does it even mean?
ABE
No one can give Wikiquote a source either.
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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 92 of 231 (676940)
10-25-2012 11:44 PM
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10-25-2012 11:25 PM


Re: Please show evidence Murrow said that
Everywhere on the web it is stated that murrow said this. He isn't the first person to say something similar to it though. If this many people think he said it, it is you who should come up with evidence that he did not say it.
Are you fucking serious? Your evidence is it is posted on the internet? You want me to look at everything he ever said and to make sure he didn't say it. You really have no clue do you.
He isn't the first person to say something similar to it though.
You have no evidence he said it.
If this many people think he said it, it is you who should come up with evidence that he did not say it.
IT BURNS!!!!!
I know enough that Murrow is idolized by liberal cretins ad nauseum as if he were some kind of god.
And the attacks begin.
I am a liberal and I don't give a rats ass about Murrow
Liberals usually don't idolize conservatives. That is all I need to know.
WTF??
Any chance you will ever be right about anything or have anything to contribute about the topics?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 104 of 231 (677002)
10-26-2012 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by foreveryoung
10-26-2012 1:39 AM


RE: Please show evidence Murrow said that
You have no original source of him saying at all like this.
If you think some one else came up with that EXACT paraphrase, feel free to say who it was. Otherwise, why would everyone attribute that quote to murrow?
Because it is misattributed. SOmeone thought it would be cool if he said it and a bunch of morons believe everything they see on the internet.
I repeat, until there is an original source there is no evidence he said anything like this.
All you have a teapartiers claiming this.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 105 of 231 (677003)
10-26-2012 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by foreveryoung
10-26-2012 2:52 AM


educate yourself
I just don't think that allowing "rich" people to keep the money they earn is allowing the "rich " to rape me. The people who are actually raping me are the ones in congress who are constantly writing new regulations and taxes. All that serves to do is constantly wear down the value of the dollar and make the cost of living go up and the cost of employment go up which drives the unemployment rate up.
You really need to learn about education and tax policies. Do you even know how people are taxed on income in the US? Do you understand the negative effects on concentrating wealth in the hands of the few?
You keep making these assertions but have absolutely nothing to back them up. Regulations can have a stimulative effect on employment and the economy. I won't even start a conversation on the value of the dollar. That would take a text book. None of this is black and white no matter how much you and the rest of the teapartiers(be nice) want it to be.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 106 of 231 (677005)
10-26-2012 9:36 AM
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10-26-2012 1:39 AM


Re: Please show evidence Murrow said that
Otherwise, why would everyone attribute that quote to murrow?
Are you really that uninquisitive? There are lots of wrong quotes on the net.
10 Famous Quotes That Are Misattributed
http://onviolence.com/?e=225
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See how easy that was.

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Message 137 of 231 (677122)
10-26-2012 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by foreveryoung
10-26-2012 12:07 PM


Your ignorance is showing
I am not joking. You really need to take some classes in economics. You have absolutely no understanding of economics so you probably should quit posting about it. You also have no idea how our government works.
I really want to see how Obama is responsible for the price of gas. Since he was responsible for it going up does he get any credit for the recent drop?
Through his forced obamacare on all small businesses, it is very difficult to find a good paying job and to buy affordable health insurance.
Please list the parts that have been enacted and show how they have effected employment or availability health insurance.
When the federal reserve does those "quantitative easings", they put all those extra dollars into circulation with nothing in value to back them up. That is what causes the cost of food to go up.
IT BURNS
Really just a basic class in economics. Thats all. It will help a lot.
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Message 138 of 231 (677123)
10-26-2012 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by foreveryoung
10-26-2012 3:27 PM


If that isn't fascism, I don't know what is.
Well you certainly don't know what fascism is. Political science is another thing you constantly show your ignorance about.
You might want to try a political science class or two. Last week we were all stalinists, now we a fascists.
Next week are we going to be anarcho-syndicalists?

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 140 of 231 (677125)
10-26-2012 10:10 PM
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10-26-2012 10:05 PM


I am just merely noting the hypocrisy going on here.
But you have not shown any hypocrisy at all. Your earlier creo arguments were lame as all your political arguments are. The reason you got pos now was because people were impressed that you were able to look at objective facts scientifically and come to a reasonable conclusion from those facts. There is no hypocrisy.
Your persecution complex is showing.
ABE
Thanks for the jeers. I guess that is kind of hypocritical of you.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

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Message 150 of 231 (677163)
10-27-2012 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by foreveryoung
10-26-2012 12:07 PM


My overall EFFECTIVE tax has greatly risen.
But we all know, even you, that this is a lie. Unless of course your actual income has risen greatly. You are great with spouting shit, but as now you never back anything with what is called facts.
Please explain how your effective tax rate has greatly risen. Well why don't you start with a definition of effective tax rate first so we do not have any equivocation.

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Message 158 of 231 (677178)
10-27-2012 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by foreveryoung
10-27-2012 7:05 PM


Are you wrong about everything
Why did coragyps respond with talk about petroleum engineering. I am getting a bachelors degree in geology, not geological engineering.
Because that was what you said.
Foreverwrong writes:
I will no longer have the option of becoming a petroleum engineer
Message 113
Do you not know what you are studying?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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