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Author Topic:   Yet another Congressman who doesn't accept the theory of evolution
Dr Adequate
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Message 23 of 231 (675648)
10-14-2012 3:30 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by foreveryoung
10-14-2012 12:50 AM


It is not quite the same as denying the reality of a tornado or the sheer cliff in front of you. When either not believing in evolution or the big bang causes harm to yourself or others, then I will give it the description of denying reality.
That's not actually the criterion for denying reality, though, is it? If I denied that lemons were yellow, then it wouldn't harm me, you, or anyone else, but I'd still be denying reality, because they really are yellow.

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Message 38 of 231 (675943)
10-17-2012 4:29 PM
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10-16-2012 1:21 PM


It is stalinist to declare a person useless or even worse a danger to society because he fails to believe in what all the "educated" people believe in.
No. What actually smacks of Stalinism is for a man in a position of power to decide a scientific question on ideological grounds rather than by listening to the educated people who have actually studied the question. That would be accurately described as "Stalinism" because it was what Stalin actually did. And he was indeed a danger to his society, because he wrecked Soviet agriculture as a consequence of his ignorance.

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Message 40 of 231 (675968)
10-17-2012 10:25 PM
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10-17-2012 10:17 PM


This usage is probably not in the dictionary because, like most mainstream publishers and mainstream media, they don't like to look at the truth of themselves in their inner core. They are socialists just like everybody here on EVC ...
Oh yeah, those evil socialist dictionary makers. Lexicographers the world over are noted for their flagrant Marxism, and also for compiling the definitions of words in large books. No-one can quite explain why the two things always go hand in hand, but it turns out that for some mysterious reason this is invariably the case.
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Message 45 of 231 (675980)
10-18-2012 3:51 AM
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10-17-2012 11:58 PM


The western world has been becoming progressively more socialist since the french revolution.
Also it's been becoming progressively better and better. Is this just a coincidence? If you'd like to revert to living in eighteenth century conditions, feel free. I'll even help to the best of my abilities, although for practical reasons it will be difficult to infect you with smallpox.
There is the common man who lives day to day by the sweat of his brow and then there is the "educated" man who tries to control the "intellectual and cultural world" through his trade.
No matter what conservatives may tell you, it is possible for the "common man" to be educated.
Anything that influences what a man thinks and believes is a prime target for these "elites".
Also, for ignorant tossers. Now if one group is going to influence what I think and believe, I had rather it was the people who actually know stuff. But you, of course, are free to make your own choice.
Those who wish the world to be controlled by an oligarchy of people who all think alike ...
The Republican Party?
They are aggressive and will not cease from their efforts until their goals are accomplished.
Yeah, the Republican Party.
This is why you see such consternation and threats of becoming expatriated when someone not of their ilk takes the reigns of power.
Definitely the Republican Party.
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Message 63 of 231 (676200)
10-20-2012 12:10 PM
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10-20-2012 12:59 AM


Re: Mainstream Media? Really?
There is not one original thought in every last one of you.
What? I'm full of original thoughts. For example, just the other day I came up with this wildly novel idea. What I reckon is --- this will blow your mind --- what I reckon is that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And God said, Let there be light, and there was light ...
... wait, my wife's telling me that someone already thought of that 2,500 years ago. Boy, is my face red!

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Message 67 of 231 (676209)
10-20-2012 12:45 PM
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10-20-2012 12:21 PM


My Monkey Is Wearing A Hat
I was talking about the idea, not the words. The language doesn't make a difference: the idea "My monkey is wearing a hat" is the same idea as "Ma singe porte un chapeau".

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Message 79 of 231 (676294)
10-21-2012 2:03 PM
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10-21-2012 12:33 PM


The distinction between a fool and an idiot is a subtle one.
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Message 94 of 231 (676945)
10-26-2012 1:37 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by foreveryoung
10-25-2012 9:13 PM


A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
― Edward R. Murrow
Quite so. I will not engage in you disputes about who actually said this first, but this is indeed why so many voters bend over, pull their pants down, and beg the rich to rape 'em good and hard.

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Message 97 of 231 (676948)
10-26-2012 2:02 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by foreveryoung
10-26-2012 1:42 AM


I guess that all depends on who you are calling the "rich". Not all people who earn over 250,000 a year are raping you. Just becaue someone earns more money than you do, doesn't mean they are raping you. The economy is not a pie that must be divided up. What I get is not necessarily what was yours and vice versa.
Thank you for the economic truisms. Nonetheless, the fact remains that you and millions of other bleating sheep have been conned into voting for the wolves. I don't give a tuppenny damn whether the quote originated with Murrow or not, the fact is that whoever said it is described you perfectly.
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Message 99 of 231 (676952)
10-26-2012 2:37 AM
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10-26-2012 2:32 AM


Re: Please show evidence Murrow said that
Obviously, the problem that Paine saw with
Y'know, that is just what I was thinking.

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Message 101 of 231 (676963)
10-26-2012 3:35 AM
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10-26-2012 2:52 AM


The people who are actually raping me are the ones in congress who are constantly writing new regulations and taxes.
Well, let me ask you a simple question. Since Obama took office, has your tax rate gone up or gone down or stayed the same? You should know, this is a question about you and your own money. Surely you must have noticed. You can look at your own tax returns. Has your proportional tax burden increased?

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Message 142 of 231 (677131)
10-27-2012 4:45 AM
Reply to: Message 125 by foreveryoung
10-26-2012 3:27 PM


It took me agreeing with you people on the age of the earth and the universe to get any positive reps, otherwise I get bombarded with negative rep when I don't follow the party line. If that isn't fascism, I don't know what is.
Ah yes, fascism. That's when people agree with things that they agree with, and disagree with things that they disagree with, isn't it? Oh, and I seem to remember some sort of trivial detail about gas chambers, but that's essentially what fascism is, am I right?

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Message 143 of 231 (677132)
10-27-2012 4:59 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by foreveryoung
10-26-2012 12:07 PM


My overall EFFECTIVE tax has greatly risen.
So, not your actual tax rate, then?
Through his actions on the petroleum industry, I am paying close to 4 bucks a gallon for gas.
Golly, and there was I thinking that gas prices were set by the free market.
Through his forced obamacare on all small businesses, it is very difficult to find a good paying job and to buy affordable health insurance.
Well, the combination of Obamacare and the magical Obama time machine.
The biggest tax on me so far is the rising cost of food. When the federal reserve does those "quantitative easings", they put all those extra dollars into circulation with nothing in value to back them up. That is what causes the cost of food to go up.
The inflation rate is actually rather low by historical standards. In fact, some of the time Obama's been president, it's been negative.
The biggest impact that obama's policies will have on me is limiting my career choices when I graduate. I will no longer have the option of becoming a petroleum engineer or working with coal companies to find new sources of coal.
Because he'll use his time machine to travel to the future as well?
He is currently President, and guess what, people are still looking for coal and oil. How do you propose he's going to stop people from doing that after he's stopped being President?

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Message 145 of 231 (677138)
10-27-2012 7:17 AM
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10-26-2012 10:05 PM


I don't post in order to get pos rep. That is the reason I get neg rep so often. It wasn't until I agreed on the age of the earth with you guys that I get positive rep. I didn't change my position on that in order to get the pos rep though; I am just merely noting the hypocrisy going on here.
Ah yes, hypocrisy. That's when people agree with things that they agree with, and disagree with things that they disagree with, isn't it? Well, apparently it is now. A more conventional definition of hypocrisy would be that it's when people conceal their opinions, rather than expressing them. But I'm sure you know best.

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Message 220 of 231 (677390)
10-29-2012 1:47 PM
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10-28-2012 2:00 PM


If we stopped believing something because all of the evidence shows the belief to be false, then there would be times when not all the evidence was available and when that evidence did become available, our belief would turn out to be vindicated.
Yes, there would. And there would also be times when if we went on believing something when all the evidence shows that it's false we would not ever be vindicated, it would in fact be false, and we'd go to our graves being stubborn idiots.
At least if we go by the evidence we are trying to be right. We may sometimes fail, but we are more likely to fail if we don't even try. A man who tries to run his fastest may lose the race, but he's more likely to lose the race if he doesn't try to run his fastest. The same applies to the search for truth: we can try our hardest to do what we can with what we've got and still fail, but we are more likely to fail if we don't even try.

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