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Message 64 of 231 (676201)
10-20-2012 12:10 PM

Reply to: Message 59 by Percy
10-20-2012 11:19 AM

Re: Mainstream Media? Really?

Hi Percy,

Percy writes:

It's not so much that we all think the same way but more that we all accept the same facts, and our opinions are constrained by those facts. Those who reject facts do tend to have a wider variety of opinion.

So what are the facts you are talking about?

How did the universe begin to exist?

How did life on earth begin to exist?

All other facts are based upon those two hypothesis.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 66 of 231 (676206)
10-20-2012 12:21 PM

Reply to: Message 63 by Dr Adequate
10-20-2012 12:10 PM

Re: Mainstream Media? Really?

Hi Dr,

Dr Adequate writes:

Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And God said, Let there be light, and there was light ...

... wait, my wife's telling me that someone already thought of that 2,500 years ago. Boy, is my face red!

Correction:

Actually those words were not used 2500 years ago. That was a translation of the Hebrew words that was recorded some 2500 years ago.

We could argue as to whether the translation was correct or not, but we would need to do that in a different thread.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 74 of 231 (676247)
10-21-2012 2:21 AM

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10-20-2012 5:25 PM

Re: Mainstream Media? Really?

Hi NoNukes,

NoNukes writes:

Here is a fact for you. The earth is much older than 9,000 years old. There is plenty of evidence backing that up. In fact, I don't believe there to be a single poster to this thread, including you and foreveryoung, who believes otherwise.

The Bible gives evidence that the earth and heavens are much older than 9,000 years.

The Bible says in the beginning. I have found no one who can tell me when the beginning was.

YEC'S tell me 6,000 years ago. Some even streach it out to 10,000 years ago.

Science tells me the earth began to exist a little over 4 billion years ago, and it tells me the universe began to exist between 8 billion and 20 billion years ago.

Personally I believe the universe has always existed in some form. But not necessarily in the form we see it today.

NoNukes writes:

Accordingly, the earth being older than 9,000 years old is not a lie from the pits of hell.

Agreed, but there are those who believe the lie that the earth and universe is less than 10,000 years old and that lie comes from the pits of hell.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 77 of 231 (676282)
10-21-2012 12:24 PM

Reply to: Message 75 by Percy
10-21-2012 7:47 AM

Re: Mainstream Media? Really?

Hi Percy,

Percy writes:

You've just referred to your two questions as both facts and hypotheses. I sense some confusion.

I am not confused.

I believe the universe and everything in it has existed for eternity past and will exist in eternity future. Neither in the form we see it today.

I believe life has always existed. It takes life to produce life.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 78 of 231 (676284)
10-21-2012 12:33 PM

Reply to: Message 76 by NoNukes
10-21-2012 11:08 AM

Re: Mainstream Media? Really?

Hi NoNukes,

NoNukes writes:

That's great. I am not describing a dispute between the Bible and science. My comments are about a Congressman who is an idiot.

I would not classify the Congressman as an idiot for his beliefs, no more than I would classify you as an idiot for your beliefs.

Since I disagree with the Congressman I would say he has believed what he has been taught, and is very sincere in what he believes. He is just sincerely wrong. He has believed the lie that he has been taught which makes him a fool.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 80 of 231 (676297)
10-21-2012 2:55 PM

Reply to: Message 79 by Dr Adequate
10-21-2012 2:03 PM

Hi Dr,

Dr Adequate writes:

The distinction between a fool and an idiot is a subtle one.

IDIOT 1. usually offensive: a person affected with extreme mental retardation

An idiot has diminished mental capacity.

Which means he/she would not have a PHD.

FOOL 1. a person lacking in judgment or prudence.

A fool can be a person that has a PHD and several other degrees.

I think that is a little more than a subtle distinction.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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