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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1489 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
tradition. What makes you think a tradition can't be racist, or have come about via racist attitudes?
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subbie Member (Idle past 1276 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
kuresu, apparently you aren't aware of the meeting in the early 1800s of the Mathematics and Arithmetic Society for the Suppression of Asians (MASSA), where they voted to continue calling it the Pythagorean Theorem, concluding that, "Just because those the Chinese had it first, that's no reason to recognize them. After all, if they didn't have the forsight to bring it to whitey's attention before we thought it up, that's their tough luck."
Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... racism was present in the math ... Of course it is. There are different classes of numbers: integers, real numbers, unreal numbers, imaginary numbers etc. They are not equal. It's all about how you cut the π Enjoy. compare Fiocruz Genome and fight Muscular Dystrophy with Team EvC! (click) we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2535 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
no, that's called class warfare.
my bet is on the complex numbers--they kick my ass in trig. well, there is some sort of discrimination going on, perhaps. you know, simple math deals with simple numbers (like reals). the more complex, the more complex the numbers. why should simple math be stuck with just simple numbers? Question. Always Question. " . . .and some nights I just pray to the god of sex and drugs and rock'n'roll"--meatloaf Want to help give back to the world community? Did you know that your computer can help? Join the newest TeamEvC Climate Modelling to help improve climate predictions for a better tomorrow.
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Jon Inactive Member |
Would you change your name for something that trivial?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
no, that's called class warfare. Which is why all racists elevate their objects of hate to a higher class?
why should simple math ... Racist. compare Fiocruz Genome and fight Muscular Dystrophy with Team EvC! (click) we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
trivial ... to you?
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Jon Inactive Member |
There are a lot of books written from a long time ago, and chances are that the people in those books are mostly racist. That doesn't make the books themselves racist.
The book isn't racist just because it uses "racist" language (recall, that was common-place at the time, and to write the book any other way would be ignoring the clear racism of society). And then today, you would be looking back going "man, they talked so kindly of those funny little black slaves. didn't they realize how evil slavery was and racism? were they that oblivious? what schleps!" Basically, I think you will find a problem either way. And, I think it is that one thing that people like Subbie and I are really getting at. If you can REALLY find racism in every view point of every idea, then clearly you're making it up somewhere! And... you must be snuffed! Checkmate J0N
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Jon Inactive Member |
The name is used, simple. To change it is stupid, because it doesn't serve a purpose. How many people do you really think get anti-Asian rage when they hear about Pythagoras? The problem doesn't exist there. It's a name, so common, that it's almost just a word. Changing it is extreme. Life goes on.
Look: no racial intentions in the creation of the name, no racial intentions in it now. Perhaps we should call Christmas the Celebration of the birth of Horus, since they were born on the same day , and Horus MUCH earlier. Should we meet with modern-day Egyptians to ask them if they want their holiday back? They can have the name? It would be lovely really, and at the same time, quite ridiculous. J0N
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1489 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Would you change your name for something that trivial? My name? I don't understand. The name of the theorem? I'd change it to something like "the hypotenuse-square theorem" or something as it emerged that the theory had been concurrently discovered by several different cultures. In fact, I'm going to, from now on.
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Jon Inactive Member |
You are free to do that, and I think it's a cool idea . Of course, I'm gonna keep calling it Pythagoran, just like I'll always use the English system for measurements . Old fashioned!
J0N
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2535 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
hey jon, first of, it's only check. I still have other places to move.
second off, there aren't too many people (if any) who follow the ancient egyptian religion. your example again, is useless. check.
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nator Member (Idle past 2191 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I don't. I'm white, and we get most of the perks in this country. However, if we want to talk about gender...
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Jon Inactive Member |
However, if we want to talk about gender...
We don't... perhaps in another thread similar to this only on sex instead (gender is used as a way of clasifying nouns in languages ). J0N
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