Understanding through Discussion


Welcome! You are not logged in. [ Login ]
EvC Forum active members: 85 (8915 total)
Current session began: 
Page Loaded: 07-18-2019 7:55 PM
25 online now:
edge, jar, Jon, Louis Morelli (4 members, 21 visitors)
Chatting now:  Chat room empty
Newest Member: 4petdinos
Post Volume:
Total: 856,973 Year: 12,009/19,786 Month: 1,790/2,641 Week: 299/708 Day: 74/52 Hour: 0/3


EvC Forum ⇒ Science Forums ⇒ Creation/Evolution Miscellany ⇒

I Know That God Does Not Exist

Thread ▼ Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   I Know That God Does Not Exist
Modulous
Member (Idle past 299 days)
Posts: 7789
From: Manchester, UK
Joined: 05-01-2005

Normal Thread Display

(2)
Message 42 of 1318 (675486)
10-11-2012 3:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Stile
10-10-2012 2:27 PM

I've used a similar line before, though I make it a conditional, something like:

If I can say I know there is no Santa Claus
If I can say I know there are no fairies
If I can say I know there are no secret CIA bases on the moon controlling our thoughts
Then I say I know there is no God.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by Stile, posted 10-10-2012 2:27 PM Stile has responded
Replies to this message:
 Message 51 by Stile, posted 10-12-2012 8:14 AM Modulous has responded
  
Modulous
Member (Idle past 299 days)
Posts: 7789
From: Manchester, UK
Joined: 05-01-2005

Normal Thread Display
Message 66 of 1318 (675582)
10-12-2012 1:39 PM 		Reply to: Message 51 by Stile
10-12-2012 8:14 AM

Re: Good Summary
I suppose I'm just trying to discuss the thought process behind all the "If's" and "Then's" in order to make sure everything lines up and that I understand the foundation.

The problem you tend to run into, and the one in this thread it looks like, is when we're talking about the unfalsifiable. How can you essentially assert the falsity of that which cannot be established as false?

Which is why I keep it in the conditional. If that's the angle someone wants to go at I'm fine with that - but we then are forced to say that we can't know that Santa Claus doesn't exist either. I mean he might be intangible but 'inspire' gift giving using his aura of kindness or something.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 51 by Stile, posted 10-12-2012 8:14 AM Stile has responded
Replies to this message:
 Message 69 by Stile, posted 10-12-2012 2:43 PM Modulous has acknowledged this reply
  
Date format: mm-dd-yyyy
Timezone: ET (US)
  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2018 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.0 Beta
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2019