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Author Topic:   I Know That God Does Not Exist
Larni
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Message 81 of 2138 (675656)
10-14-2012 7:20 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Thugpreacha
10-14-2012 7:08 AM


Re: Snakes may be in the pudding
Hi Phat, long time no see.

When I'm working with patients they often have fix ideation that 'could' be true but there is no objective way of finding out.

For example some people with social phobia believe other people with negatively judge them. When asked to list the evidence that leads them to that conclusion but to rule out anything that is based on hunches, intuitions or assumptions they have no reasonable choice but to say they have no reasonable evidence to conclude (in this case) that people are judging them.

Eventually the 'echo' of the anxiety fades away.

So if there is no actual evidence of God we must conclude for all intents and purposes that that is no difference in him not existing or not interacting with us in any way.


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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Larni
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From: Liverpool
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Message 84 of 2138 (675659)
10-14-2012 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by Thugpreacha
10-14-2012 7:23 AM


Re: Snakes may be in the pudding
Any time we feel anxiety we attempt to avoid it. If we don't avoid it eventually it will fade away an have no power over us.

Hypotheticaly if you were to confront the anxiety you feel about your god's non existance the anxiety would fail: provided you refrain from 'relapse'. Just like the compulsion to smoke recedes through abstinence so to will the compulsion to cleave to the devine.

Does that make any sense?


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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Larni
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Message 86 of 2138 (675661)
10-14-2012 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by Tangle
10-14-2012 8:48 AM


Re: Snakes may be in the pudding
Good point.

Why would a god have to go through the whole charade when say simple manifest and say "I want you to live this way: you don't have to but if you don't when Judgement comes I will resurrect you into an immortal body and torture you for all eternity."?

I think the reason he does not manifest and say that is because some bright spark might ask 'why?'

Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

Edited by Larni, : No reason given.


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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Larni
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From: Liverpool
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Message 1260 of 2138 (857931)
07-13-2019 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 1235 by Dredge
07-10-2019 1:32 AM


Re: chances
quote:
Can you name a machine (biological or non-biological) that has been observed to build itself?

What's your working definition of machine in this case?

Edited by Larni, : DVD extras


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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Larni
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From: Liverpool
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Message 1261 of 2138 (857932)
07-13-2019 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1245 by Dredge
07-12-2019 12:05 AM


Re: chances
No one has ever observed evolution generating complexity.

What units are you using to measure comlexity?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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 Message 1245 by Dredge, posted 07-12-2019 12:05 AM Dredge has not yet responded

    
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