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Author Topic:   I Know That God Does Not Exist
Dr Adequate
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Message 318 of 2755 (721172)
03-04-2014 1:24 PM
Reply to: Message 315 by Eliyahu
03-04-2014 6:48 AM

Another Quote Mine
You might want to find out what "the anthropic principle" means, and then use other words to describe what it is you want to talk about.

Re your quote mine:

Wernher von Braun (Pioneer rocket engineer) "I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science."

Also: "Let us win the war for Nazism and then exterminate the inferior Jewish race. Heil Hitler!" --- Werner von Braun (my paraphrase). Just 'cos he was a rocket scientist doesn't mean he was right about everything. If he had any good arguments for theism, feel free to reproduce them. If not, I am hardly likely to start believing in God just on the say-so of a Nazi war criminal.

And similar remarks apply to your other quotes. True, most of the others weren't Nazis and didn't work thousands of Jews to death as half-starved slave laborers. Good for them. And yet I know nothing so positive about them that would impel me to believe in God just on their say-so. If they had actual arguments for the existence of God, now would be a great time to produce them.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 319 of 2755 (721173)
03-04-2014 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 313 by Eliyahu
03-03-2014 11:59 PM

A mathematician, Borel, calculated that the probability of something happening that has a chance of happening of only 1 in 10^50, is zero, meaning, something with odds of 1 in 10^50, will never happen:

Thing is, this is a lie. Borel was, as you say, a mathematician, and therefore never claimed to have "calculated" anything so repulsively mathematically illiterate.

You can prove that it's not true yourself. Take a pack of cards and shuffle them thoroughly. The chances of you getting that particular outcome is 1 in about 8 * 10 ^ 67. If the creationist lie was true, you have just done something "that will never happen". But it did.

Perhaps you could base your arguments on something that isn't obviously a lie. Or perhaps not.

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