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Dredge
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Message 1236 of 3207 (857653)
07-10-2019 1:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1183 by dwise1
07-08-2019 2:47 AM


Re: GotGs
I know you didn't write it - that's why I put quotation marks around it. I should have made it clearer that it wasn't your quote - sorry.

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Message 1237 of 3207 (857654)
07-10-2019 1:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1221 by Theodoric
07-08-2019 2:44 PM


Re: Theology, Philosophy, and Facts vs Fiction
If God knew everything he would get very bored, I should think.

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Message 1244 of 3207 (857840)
07-12-2019 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1186 by AZPaul3
07-08-2019 3:15 AM


Re: chances
AZPaul3 writes:
alter boy
What's an "alter boy"?

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Dredge
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Message 1245 of 3207 (857841)
07-12-2019 12:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1187 by dwise1
07-08-2019 4:27 AM


Re: chances
dwise1 writes:
The bottom line is that evolution generates complexity
The bottom line there is no empirical evidence for this atheist fantasy. No one has ever observed evolution generating complexity.

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Dredge
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Message 1262 of 3207 (858016)
07-15-2019 2:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1186 by AZPaul3
07-08-2019 3:15 AM


Re: chances
AZPaul3 writes:
We're talking to the village idiot about his mental handicaps and schizophrenic personality. We're talking to the village idiot who hears mysterious voices in his head and thinks it's god. We're talking to the village idiot who hallucinates macabre images no one else can see and thinks he is sane.
Sorry, but your claim is illogical and unscientific and no psychiatrist would agree with you: One vision and one mysterious voice (known as a locution) over a period of several decades hardly represent symptoms of mental illness - especially when the vision very accurately foretold a future event and when the mysterious voice saved my life. On the other hand, someone who is experiencing hallucinations and hearing voices due to mental illness (schizophrenia, for example) does so on a regular basis.
Furthermore the hallucinations and voices are meaningless - they certainly don’t predict the future or save anyone’s life.
When confronted with miracles, atheists like you find themselves completely out of their depth and discombobulated, hence the irrational reactions. You can run and hide from aspects of reality that you don’t want to face up to, but your phobia strongly suggests you have no love for truth. The problem for you is, the truth eventually catches up with everyone.

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Message 1263 of 3207 (858017)
07-15-2019 2:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1240 by Pressie
07-10-2019 9:16 AM


Re: Theology, Philosophy, and Facts vs Fiction
Depends on one's definition of "omniscient", I guess.

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Message 1264 of 3207 (858018)
07-15-2019 2:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1247 by AZPaul3
07-12-2019 12:12 AM


Re: chances
Yep, I had absolutely no idea what you meant by "alter boy" . lol! Anyhow, now at least you know how to spell "altar".

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Message 1285 of 3207 (858124)
07-17-2019 2:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1238 by Sarah Bellum
07-10-2019 8:48 AM


Re: chances
Sarah Bellum writes:
All life builds copies (or new versions) of itself, but that is, presumably, not quite the same thing.
You seem to have forgotten the alleged first life-form, which, according to atheist folklore, formed naturally from inanimate matter.
That is, you claim that before intelligence can exist, there must be some intelligent agency in existence!
That’s right - life can only come from life and intelligence can only come from intelligence.

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Dredge
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Message 1320 of 3207 (858270)
07-19-2019 4:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1267 by Theodoric
07-15-2019 9:32 AM


Re: Theology, Philosophy, and Facts vs Fiction
RAZD writes:
What would your definition be?
I don’t have a definition for omniscient. I don't know what it means for God to be omniscient.
The dictionary definition is some version of "all knowing". Pretty straight forward. Little or no room for ambiguity. So how would you define the word?
Pretty vague.

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Dredge
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Message 1377 of 3207 (858488)
07-20-2019 7:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1291 by ringo
07-17-2019 5:10 PM


Re: chances
ringo writes:
Also according to Judeo-Christian folklore:
quote:
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into
his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
The Bible doesn’t say life arose NATURALLY from inanimate matter. Genesis 2:7 says God breathed life into inanimate matter.

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Message 1378 of 3207 (858489)
07-20-2019 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1299 by Sarah Bellum
07-17-2019 11:12 PM


Re: chances
Sarah Bellum writes:
As for intelligence having to exist before intelligence can exist . . . isn't that a contradiction in your position?
My position is, intelligence cannot come from non-intelligence.

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Message 1379 of 3207 (858490)
07-20-2019 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1302 by Stile
07-18-2019 8:28 AM


Re: No evidence = irrational
Stile writes:
Unless you can provide any amount of evidence that suggests God actually exists?
Life arising naturally from inanimate matter defies science. But what is the point of offering such evidence to someone who is determined to reject any evidence for God’s existence?

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Dredge
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Message 1436 of 3207 (858699)
07-22-2019 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1321 by Theodoric
07-19-2019 7:55 AM


Re: Theology, Philosophy, and Facts vs Fiction
Theodoric writes:
So you believe in a god that is not all knowing? Aren't you catholic?
I am indeed Catholic. I don’t know if God is all-knowing, because I don’t know what all-knowing means.

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Dredge
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Message 1447 of 3207 (858892)
07-24-2019 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1382 by Sarah Bellum
07-20-2019 11:35 PM


Re: chances
Sarah Bellum writes:
But even if that was the case, you're stuck with a dilemma: either there was some point before there was intelligence in the universe or the universe is infinitely old and there always was intelligence.
What you present here is a fallacy of the false alternative. The intelligence that is evident in the universe came from the intelligence of God. So you were almost right in that intelligence has always existed ... but that eternal intelligence exists outside the universe.
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

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Message 2766 of 3207 (894281)
05-11-2022 1:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Stile
10-10-2012 2:27 PM


quote: "Stile"
I don't believe God doesn't exist, I don't have faith that God doesn't exist, I don't simply have a lack of belief in God. I know that God doesn't exist.
On a scale of 1-10, how happy does it make you to "know" that
God doesn't exist?

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