I Know That God Does Not Exist

That's not a good example. It relies on a "wrong decision", which is subjective. I'm saying that a thought process can be rational but still be objectively wrong. For example, geocentrism is rational but wrong, phlogiston is rational but wrong, etc.

But you have to have a reason for deciding something is illogical - i.e. your conclusion has to be rational.Why do you refuse to give us your reasons? Just give us a list of logical errors in the concept of gods.Unless you have concrete reasons (specific errors), your conclusion is irrational.

Then for fuck's sake tell us what the flaws are.

We have not been talking about "despite the evidence" at all. But evidence has nothing to do with it anyway. Logic does not require evidence.There is no evidence that James Bond exists but the idea of James Bond is not illogical. There is no evidence that Holden Caulfield exists but the idea of Holden Caulfield is not illogical. There is no evidence that Tom Joad exists but the idea of Tom Joad is not illogical. There is no evidence that Long John Silver exists but the idea of Long John Silver is not illogical. There is no evidence that Lemuel Gulliver exists but the idea of Lemuel Gulliver is not illogical. There is no evidence that Jesus exists but the idea of Jesus is not illogical.There is no evidence that God exists but the idea of God is not illogical.

You're the one making the claim that the concept of deities is illogical. i am simply challenging your claim. I am in no way obligated to prove that you are wrong. You are the one who is obligated to back up your claim.

That's just a bald assertion. You haven't explained WHY one fictional character is logical and another is not.

I listed God. Why, specifically, is God "illogical" when 007 is not?Edited by ringo, : Spilling.

I would have done exactly what I did.And I have told you what I intended, so there's no excuse for quibbling. You haven't made a point. You've made an assertion.You keep repeating that the idea of God is "illogical". Show us the illogic.

You're not answering the question. WHY are Tarot cards illogical? WHY is the idea ofr God illogical?The logical error that YOU are making is in saying that THIS example is obviously illogical, therefore THAT example is obviously illogical. The problems are that what is obvious to one is not necessarily obvious to another AND that the 'obvious' property is not distributive.

"Makes more sense" has little to do with logic. Logic is not something that can be compared. Either something is logical or it ain't. It's like going through a maze - either you get to the end or you're lost. Something does not "become" logical. It either is and always was or it ain't and never was.I suspect that Sarahy is making the same mistake as you are.

I have asked you many times to specify which rules of logic are broken by the idea of God. Something that is illogical is something that breaks the rules of logic. Conclusions that arise from false premises or that depend on logical fallacies are illogical. It would be illogical to conclude that all dogs are brown from the premise that one dog is brown.So again, what rules of logic does the idea of God violate?

First, let me point out that I'm Canadian, so thin ice is my natural habitat.
(And I've been waiting for years to do thay joke.) On the face of it, it is neither illogical nor wrong nor irrational. A good reason for crossing thin ice might be the polar bear trying to eat you. And it is possible to minimize the danger when crossing thin ice. "Illogical" pretty much does require a specific violation of logic.

Jews also died in concentration camps. Jehovah's Witnesses also died in concentration camps. People dying for different gods doesn't prove that any of those gods are real.

No I don't. Will you ever stop telling that lie? There's no need for the mocking tone. That's the only thing in your post that you got right: same as you used to believe in Santa Claus and outgrew that childish conclusion. Nonsense. Chemicals are not made up.

It's the EXACT same level: fictional character. You make the mistake of arbitrarily picking some fiction over other fiction. All myths ARE on the same shelf: the myth shelf. Neither logic nor shelves have anything to do with it. It isn't speculation. Chemicals ARE objective and quantifiable, a Creator is not. Pay attention. I have been having a long conversation with Sarah Bellum in which I insist that a Creator is NOT illogical. The same applies to gods.