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Author Topic:   I Know That God Does Not Exist
Theodoric
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Message 736 of 3207 (855806)
06-23-2019 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 724 by Hyroglyphx
06-23-2019 12:13 AM


Re: Topic Summary According to Thugzy
Theo is making it seem as if Christians can do no right
If christians want to take responsibility for all the good they have done, they must also take responsibility for the destruction they have caused.
It is funny how we hear all the great things christians have done and if any christian does good things christians hail how wonderful their religion is. But if any christian does evil, crickets. We either hear they were not real christians or the fact that they were christian has nothing to do with anything.
ABE
This should be the first sentence. It will not show. IS it only not showing on my view?
If christians want to take responsibility for all the good they have done, they must also take responsibility for the destruction they have caused.
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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 737 of 3207 (855807)
06-23-2019 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 725 by Dredge
06-23-2019 12:15 AM


Re: Topic Summary According to Thugzy
You are a troll.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 738 of 3207 (855808)
06-23-2019 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 729 by Hyroglyphx
06-23-2019 12:51 AM


Re: Topic Summary According to Thugzy
Natives gave Europeans Syphilis
That is just one hypothesis. Science does not know the origin of syphilis. It could have originated in the Americas. No one knows.
History of syphilis - Wikipedia

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 740 of 3207 (855811)
06-23-2019 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 739 by Hyroglyphx
06-23-2019 10:29 AM


No group is all good or all bad
My only criticism was that its always best not to treat groups as a homogenized unit - especially one so large and diverse.
Agreed. That is the point I am trying to make. Refer back to the original post of his that I am responding to.
Message 674
Dredge writes:
Then there is the fact that atheist (read: Communist) regimes killed far, far more people in just one century that all the Christian wars in history put together.
I do not blame all christians for native genocide throughout the world. I also do not specifically blame christian religions. The christian religion was a tool used by the elites to expand and exploit commercial interests. Churches were a willing tool.
But as I said. People cannot just take credit for any good their ingroup does, and then turn around ignore all the bad.
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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 741 of 3207 (855814)
06-23-2019 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 709 by Dredge
06-22-2019 8:08 PM


Re: Topic Summary According to Thugzy
Which Catholic teaching says people who have never heard the Christian message are going to hell? I'm unaware of such a teaching.
That is not what Tangle said is it?
Lets look at what Tangle actually said.
Tangle writes:
the punishment of being condemned to everlasting flames if you're nor persuaded by - or haven't even heard of - a stone age myth is just plain idiotic.
Do you see that?"not persuaded by"
Is There Really "No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church?" | Catholic Answers
quote:
1. There is no salvation apart from Christ and his One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. Again, this is an infallible teaching and not up for debate among Catholics.
2. Those who are “invincibly” ignorant concerning the truth of #1 above will not be culpable for this lack of knowledge before God.
3. Those in the category of #2 have the real possibility of salvation even if they never come to an explicit knowledge of Christ and/or his Church.
Those not persuaded by catholic teaching are condemned to hell according to catholic teaching.
Edited by Theodoric, : spelling

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 758 of 3207 (855847)
06-23-2019 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 750 by Dredge
06-23-2019 8:23 PM


Re: Topic Summary According to Thugzy
You obviously know nothing about science or the TOE.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 759 of 3207 (855848)
06-23-2019 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 756 by Dredge
06-23-2019 9:11 PM


Re: Topic Summary According to Thugzy
So you do not believe in racial equality? Whites are superior?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 766 of 3207 (855862)
06-24-2019 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 754 by Dredge
06-23-2019 9:04 PM


Re: No group is all good or all bad
Mel Gibson is anti-semetic, whereas I'm part-Jewish.
And Clarence Thomas is black. What is your point?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 768 of 3207 (855867)
06-24-2019 10:35 AM
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06-24-2019 9:55 AM


Re: Topic Summary According to Thugzy
Not fascist. You might want to research the term before you throw it around.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 784 of 3207 (855943)
06-25-2019 12:30 AM
Reply to: Message 783 by Dredge
06-24-2019 10:51 PM


Re: Topic Summary According to Thugzy
If you weren't you would provide evidence for all the assertions you have been called out on. As you have not, my calling you out stands.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1068 of 3207 (857067)
07-05-2019 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1051 by Dredge
07-04-2019 11:35 PM


Re: In Defense Of The Book
Yeah the Pope barely scrapes by. Those Cardinals can barely get to and from work or get a healthy meal.
I have known a fair amount of priests in my life. They all lived in very nice homes and drove very nice vehicles. When they did have to travel they traveled first class. Yes they had very little personal assets but that is much different than a vow of poverty.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1078 of 3207 (857097)
07-05-2019 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1070 by GDR
07-05-2019 10:42 AM


Re: chances
Majick!

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1108 of 3207 (857141)
07-06-2019 8:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1106 by GDR
07-05-2019 11:04 PM


Re: chances
connection between consciousness and our physical world.
What do you mean by that? That there is a connection is self evident as AZPaul3 says in his response
AZPaul3 writes:
Since consciousness is an emergent property of our physical biological being a connection is obvious.
Your statement is pretty much word salad unless you explain what you are attempting to say by putting those words together.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1155 of 3207 (857288)
07-07-2019 11:07 AM


So Dwise1 gets admonished but Dredge continues as always? Your bias is showing Phat. As always.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1174 of 3207 (857348)
07-07-2019 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1173 by Phat
07-07-2019 10:08 PM


Re: BCRPS
So instead of actually answering Jar you just produce more word salad?
Lovely.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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