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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Well why not? It's what we do, try to find stuff out. Indeed. But when there are no effects there to study then what are we studying? What are we going to find out besides that there are no effects to study? Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
We'll see what occurs. I didn't get any memo on subject change. Are we still talking non-interventionist gods? I take "non-interventionist" literally. No effect on our universe. By definition there would be nothing there to see.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Instead of just god we could commune with our car keys, our trash cans and our computers (except those with the latest Win 10 updates).
I'm not sure I like the idea of my trash can saying "Thank you" every time I stuff a pizza box in her. Much too creepy.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Just remember they scoffed at just about every crazy idea once upon a time. And for the most part with good reason. But I am an open kinda guy. Before I call it crackpot I'll go see if my toothbrush has an opinion. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Just know AZ the biome in your gut may have opinions you thought were your own. Those opinions *are* my own. My biome is as much a part of "me" as my cerebral cortex.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Even though they do not share one bit of your DNA?? There are lots of non-DNA vectors to our opinions. My personal biome is not unique in that regard. And since without it I could not live my biome can be seen as yet another bodily organ required to sustain my existence and thus has as much right to my opinions as my DNA.
You may just be some eating mechanism they inhabit that facilitates them. I am. You are. We all are nothing more than the complex survival vessels for those evolved self-replicators that started this whole "life" thing off billions of years ago.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
I agree, them bugs in your gut are not only welcome to your opinions, they may BE the thing that formulates many of them. Yes. My opinions are chuck full of bugs just like those polite Japanese trash cans ... and my toothbrush. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Just because they lack objective evidence is no reason to dismiss their claims. That is precisely the reason to reject their claims.
but some arguments are worthy of further investigation. Not without any evidence to give credence to the claim. No.
Are you so cocksure of your position that you refuse to entertain philosophical ones which lack objective evidence? Say "yes" Sarah. Say "yes".
As long as I'm on this forum I wont allow the likes of Stile, jaer, and/or you to frame the basis for any faith based claim. Feeling your oats are you? As long as I'm on this forum I won't allow you to make any faith based claim without objective evidence to back it up. I eat oatmeal too. {Not really. I'm not going to follow you around but you know the spirit.} Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
He mirrors the perfection that He desires we obtain. Evidence required.
Just because God ... Who? Evidence required.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
How would one go about obtaining evidence that would satisfy you? Let me know when and I’ll host a small party of 20 or so at my favorite pizza place where he/she/it can show us his majik by putting an end to our world’s need/penchant for war and put an immediate and permanent end to hunger and disease. Since it’s such a small party she could whisk us away to another galaxy to another planet to another intelligent species where she promises to stop torturing them as well as all others in the universe. Then we could return to the party where the media is set up for a press conference where it would explain itself and its reasons and beg our forgiveness for the countless millennia of torture and evil it inflicted on the universe. And then pick up the tab. That would help. I’m not set on the agenda. Open to the specifics. Have him call me and we can discuss the details.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Eleanor Roosevelt can fly.
Reasoning: if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings she could fly.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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So if you prayed to God, you would be willing to lay down your accusations against Her long enough to allow God to inform you of His(Her) presence? Let's see a god worth my praying to first then we'll discuss whether my accusations against her are worthy.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
What butchery? Israel vs CanaanThe Cirraean War (First Sacred War) Second Sacred War Third Sacred War Fourth Sacred War Muslim Conquests Frisian Uprisings The Crusades I thru VI The Umayyad Conquest & Reconquista French Religious Wars Thirty Years' War Taiping Rebellion Lebanese Civil War The Second War Of Keppel Sudanese Civil War I & II German Peasants’ War The Biafran Wars Buddhist Uprising - Vietnam The Dungan Revolt Croatian and Bosnian Wars + hundreds more What religion? All of them.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
You said you'd "seen butchery of the human body and spirit" by religion. You were not talking about wars. Who are you to tell me what I was or was not talking about?Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
The list is there. If that doesn’t define and provide enough butchery for you then so be it.
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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