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eclectic1993
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Message 1 of 16 (676260)
10-20-2012 11:15 PM


Hi,
I'm interested in seeing a comprehensive record of fossils superimposed on a map of the super continent. I've seen such records on maps of our current earth topography.
It would be nice to toggle various fossil groups. I think it would be of interest to yec and toe proponents. Also moving tectonic plates and showing fossils would be interesting.
I am a programmer and have thought of creating such a project. It would be nice to see it done already.
Regards,
Chuck

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eclectic1993
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Message 6 of 16 (676299)
10-21-2012 3:19 PM


Hi,
The map above is a generalized idea. If you go to Google and type 'maps of fossils', and then click on Images you'll see lots of examples. Most of the maps are localized to a state, a park, etc. Dogmafood posted a map showing a supercontinent.
Imagine that map had dots corresponding to current latitude/longitude position of fossil discoveries. Further imagine an algorithm that converted current lat/long to pangea lat/long. It would be awesome to select a particular fossil type and see those occurences.
So, do any of you know of such a program? Site? Project?
You may be wondering why? I'm a creationist by faith. As is well known on this site I believe God created a super land mass, and all the critters we've come to love through our study of Paleontology. And that they existed together within the same time span. Yep! I sure do!
Since fossil discoveries within the geological column world-wide are acceptable scientific data then I would like to see where the 'dots' fall and if there are any observable patterns that might lead me to reconsider what I believe.
Thanks for your time.
Regards,
Chuck

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eclectic1993
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Message 10 of 16 (676438)
10-22-2012 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Dr Adequate
10-22-2012 12:09 AM


Hi,
@HBD,
I've seen those tectonic plate animations. I've given some thought to converting present data latitude/longitude to tectonic plate coordinates. The 'time' factor could be controlled by selecting the year or the name corresponding to the geological timescale. Another feature is defining the starting point on a spherical surface along with an orientation of Pangea. This would allow Pangea to be moved about in an effort to align various fossil patterns up with migration, tropical zones, etc.
I suppose pole reversals might be mapped on this time scale to assist in determining the best path of continental movement.
As a programmer, databases of a 250,000 isn't too bad. Thanks for that link. I'll dig into it after dinner tonight.
@DrAdequate,
quote:
perhaps they could just flip the little switch in their head which allows them to ignore them, as usual.
I don't know you well enough to know if you're just a playful person or can't help taking jabs where you can. 'Jabs' are why I avoided pro-creation and pro-evolution forums in the past. I guess time will tell.
Thanks guys,
Chuck

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eclectic1993
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Message 13 of 16 (676717)
10-25-2012 1:56 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Blue Jay
10-24-2012 10:42 AM


@Dr A.
quote:
Well, I hope you'll stick around, 'cos you seem like a nice person.
Alright! I'll stick around.
It's disingenuous to leave out data. I don't like it when watching the news outlets nor do I like it in science. Scientists are constantly dealing with this ethical issue related to fabricating/tweaking/ignoring data that might result in a different conclusion. I read that only 5% of scientists hold to the creationist view point. I suppose that means that 19 evolutionists falsify results for every 1 creationist falsifying results. =)
@Blue Jay,
No, I did not know of the field called biogeography. Thanks. I've opened the Wikipedia page on the topic.
quote:
I know many other examples just like this. I would be very interested in seeing if you could put a large number of them together to create an animated visual aid that showcases the patterns of fossil occurrence. It would also be very informative for the evolution/creation debate.
I spent some time yesterday thinking about the algorithm to move GPS coordinates back in time and on a round earth. My brain began to hurt as I started working out coordinate frame translations/rotations over the earth. So, now I'm thinking about a 2D map of the world as a good starting point. I think it would suffice until someone smarter came along.
Although, I have created a sphere in DirectX and OpenGL for a 3D simulation. I need to think some more on this.
So, it's conceivable to have a...
* 2D/3D map of the world
* Move the continents about from Pangea to current layout
* Pin actual coordinates on the map (current layout) of actual fossil locations.
* Move the maps about the world, with the pinned locations traveling with them.
* toggle the geological time frame and/or show specific fossil types (family/genus/species)
Let me think about this.
Thanks,
Chuck

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