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Stile Member Posts: 4010 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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I don't think you understand what "niceness" means. Niceness is acting with the fruits of the Spirit. From your link above: quote: Let's take the list and remove "niceness," we then have: quote: Can you actually be "nice" without any of these also describing your actions? The answer to both of these questions is "no." That's because those virtues are exactly what "niceness" means. It's simply not included because it's redundant. The phrase "be cool, bro" isn't included either. That doesn't mean you can go around acting in a way that is "uncool, bro" such as littering and vandalizing and still claim to be a Christian just beause "be cool, bro" isn't on the list. You would be breaking the other virtues anyway. I fully admit that you can "not be nice" and align yourself with a few quotes from the Bible, but there are a lot of quotes in the Bible that have nothing to do with love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness or self-control. It is impossible to "not be nice" and also align yourself with the virtues of "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control." That's just what being nice means. Which is why I find his entire point about "niceness" not being in that specific list to be redundant and just a waste of words. It's not there because it doesn't need to be there. It doesn't add any value, and not having that word there doesn't take any value away. Exactly the same reason why "be cool, bro" isn't included.
Yes, the link you provided makes the same mistake.
Perhaps you should consider your own advice and actually leave it to God and Jesus.
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Phat Member Posts: 14837 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
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Theodoric Member (Idle past 61 days) Posts: 7051 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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No thanks.
How about you stay on topic? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Phat Member Posts: 14837 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
sometimes you can be a pompous ass.
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Theodoric Member (Idle past 61 days) Posts: 7051 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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Because you want me to watch some crap from some religious guy that has something"important" to say and I won't? If you want to preach, start a thread called "Phat is preaching", not "Christian Radio Freakshow" How many times are you going to break forum rules in this one thread? I count 3 so far. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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nwr Member Posts: 5643 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 7.5
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Four minutes and forty one seconds of total boredom. The guy has trouble getting to the point, and keeps wandering off on sidetracks. Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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You've lost weight
Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 178 days) Posts: 1814 From: Ontario Canada Joined:
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They should be held to the standards of truth and reality. Not by some governing body but by each listener. Just let them do their thing and thereby be revealed as the hucksters that they are. I happened across some late night Dr. Creflo Dollar type guy who was peddling survival supplies for the pending apocalypse. Empty water bottles for $50 a piece and if you buy 6 of them you can miraculously stack them up and create a stylish coffee table (tablecloth not included)! But wait, that's not all. These were special apocalypse water bottles that, via the marvels of god given technology, changed the pH of the water by several thousand % and brought it up to a healthy 8.3 I have some sympathy for the little old lady who sends in half of her pension cheque but anybody who believes this kind of crap deserves to be poor and sick. Society should have protected her with a decent education and not by censoring every flake who shows up on late night TV or AM talk radio. We could even use the popularity of such programs as a counter indicator of how well our education system is working. Edited by Dogmafood, : No reason given.
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Phat Member Posts: 14837 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Keep in mind that of the three posts you have contributed to this topic in, none of them have anything constructive to add to the topic either, so I wouldn't attempt throwing stones in a glass house---you might end up cutting yourself.
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Phat Member Posts: 14837 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Is there a way to pin faith & belief into a standard of truth and reality, seeing as how by definition neither can be measured? One mans bullshit is, in effect, another mans belief. One mans definition of huckster might not be interpreted the same by other listeners. This is the issue with faith and belief. It seemingly has no ironclad definition. I suppose majority opinion is the only standard. Even then, the minority could claim enlightenment and that the majority was deceived.
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 178 days) Posts: 1814 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
I think that believing something that can not be proven is quite different from believing things that are demonstrably wrong. It may be that the guy actually believed that drinking water with a pH of 8.3 is healthy but 30 seconds of googling will show anyone that he is either completely misinformed or completely full of shit.
This is why the filters need to go in at the listener level. We shouldn't be scurrying around making sure that no one says things that are not true. We should be trying harder to help people understand how to find out if things are true or not.
No, that is a fallacy known as an appeal to popularity. The principals of logic are about the first thing that should be drummed into everyone's head. If we could just get those to be fully understood then we wouldn't need to go around marking all the hazards. A working knowledge of the main logical fallacies should be tied to citizenship or getting your licence or something. At the very least it should be a prerequisite to graduating from high school.
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Theodoric Member (Idle past 61 days) Posts: 7051 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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How the hell do you know that I know nothing about faith and belief. I wasn't raised an atheist. I spent many years with unfounded faith and belief.
Then make a change to the OP. It is kind of sad that you have to misrepresent the topic in order to preach. Telling, too.
Please point out to me where it says nonbelievers cannot participate in certain fora and topics.
This is absolutely priceless. Not even worth a response. In the words of G.W.B. quote: Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Phat Member Posts: 14837 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
It was only a matter of time until Pastors and Guns merged! Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)
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