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Message 8 of 786 (679119)
11-12-2012 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Panda
11-12-2012 12:02 PM


Re: kofhu2
I've been on it since Saturday. Kafh2u returned a few days ago and immediately began participating in nine different threads. I've been asking him to get on-topic in a couple threads, and I've asked him to cease participating in another couple, though he's arguing. I'm a participant in other threads and so have requested assistance from other moderators.

In the meantime, it would help if members could just ignore the more off-topic or nonsensical posts from Kafh2u.


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Message 16 of 786 (681033)
11-22-2012 7:26 AM
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11-22-2012 4:34 AM


Re: crashfrog, message 343
Do you ever find yourself taking on your comedic persona in inappropriate circumstances?

Me too, except I'm not a professional!


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Message 19 of 786 (681243)
11-23-2012 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by crashfrog
11-23-2012 8:59 PM


Re: Moderator attention in that thread
Hi Crash,

That was pretty obviously a joke. I was trying to get you to lighten up while still making the point that I think you're being paranoid. The serious part of my post was a quote from the Bible: First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. I didn't think this needed explaining, but given that you've ignored it maybe I should.

Yes, I've been following that thread and am finding the arguments fairly obtuse. You in particular I am finding very difficult to understand. I was looking for clarity about your position, for example, a clear answer to this inquiry from Hooah in Message 379:

Hooah writes:

crash writes:

hooah212002 writes:

If the answer is no, then you admit that racism and discrimination are not synonymous.


I've never made the assertion that they are.

In Message 296, I said

quote:
Racism is not synonymous with discrimination. You should try looking up the definition of racism if you are having such difficulty with this discussion.

In Message 298, you replied with:

crash writes:

hooah212002 writes:

Racism is not synonymous with discrimination.


Yes, it is.

But I never found it. Not understanding your position, in fact finding it pretty convoluted and for that reason incomprehensible, all I can say is that I think other people are pretty confused about your position, too. I think you need to put your effort into making much more clear statements about your position instead accusing everyone of lying about you. Whatever it is you think you're trying to say, apparently you're not saying it.

To everyone in that thread: please tone it down a bit or I'll close it for a bit so people can cool down.


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Message 21 of 786 (681272)
11-24-2012 8:23 AM
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11-23-2012 10:34 PM


Re: Moderator attention in that thread
crashfrog writes:

Well, ok, but you're wrong. I'm not being paranoid...

Ah, I see, you're not paranoid because everyone *is* out to misrepresent you.

I wish I could help, I really do, but facts and arguments count for little against what people sincerely believe. If you really and truly believe everyone's out to misrepresent you then there's little to be done.

But as I said earlier, you may yourself be the cause of confusion. For example, I have no idea what the qualification about "on the basis of privilege according to race" means in this quote:

crash writes:

Clearly, message 298 was in the context of speaking specifically about racism and discrimination on the basis of privilege according to race.

Don't explain it here, my interest right now is discussion problems, not racism. I think the best approach would be for you to return to the thread and try once again to make your position clear. There's even a clear advantage in this approach for you. If you are actually being clear, then every time someone "misrepresents" you it's another opportunity for you to post yet another clear and persuasive statement of your position. Pretty soon you'll have a whole thread full of brief essays expressing your point of view and making clear what a bunch of lunkheads the other participants must be to not understand such clarity of prose. What could be better than that!


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Message 27 of 786 (681283)
11-24-2012 10:25 AM
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11-24-2012 9:57 AM


Re: Moderator attention in that thread
crashfrog writes:

Well, but again the issue is not that I'm being misunderstood, but that I'm being misrepresented.

You're reading intent where there is none that I can see. I have invested serious time reading through this thread and through your posts to this thread, I can't justify any more.


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Message 29 of 786 (681286)
11-24-2012 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by crashfrog
11-24-2012 10:22 AM


Re: Moderator attention in that thread
Hi Crash,

I wasn't going to respond to any more of your posts to this thread, but this one is intriguing enough to make an exception:

I don't understand how there can still be doubt that some participants here are motivated by a personal vendetta against me.

A quick question, Percy, if I may - have the messages posted by any other EvC member at completely unrelated websites resulted in a massive hacking attempt against EvC, simply because I post here?

In other words, you're using your well known propensity for intensely pissing people off as evidence of a conspiratorial vendetta. It's an interesting argument, but I don't see the purposeful intent that you see.

What I do see is that you are taking up my time with, however significant and important they seem to you, frivolous issues.

I do have a few fixes I can propose, people can vote here if they have a preference:

  1. The thread is about atheism, not racism. I could rule the racism discussion off-topic.

  2. The thread is already way past 300 messages, I could send it into summation mode.

  3. I could close the thread.

  4. I could do nothing.

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Message 61 of 786 (681839)
11-28-2012 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by PaulK
11-28-2012 6:40 AM


Re: Forever having another meltdown?
The board software allows banning at the Forum level, but not at the thread level. I added database fields for thread-level participation control a couple years ago but have not yet had time to implement it.

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Message 77 of 786 (682662)
12-04-2012 12:23 PM
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12-04-2012 12:07 PM


Re: Chat on the blink?
Seems to be working - suggest (in this order):

  • Restarting browser.
  • Different browser.
  • Reinstalling Java.
  • Rebooting.

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Message 97 of 786 (684943)
12-19-2012 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by hooah212002
12-19-2012 12:22 PM


Re: kofh2u
If you look through his postings to the threads in his threads list you'll see him posting on other topics, but crime correlating with single motherhood does seem to be a favorite topic for him that he'll lapse into at the drop of a hat. We're feeding him more rope, give it time.

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Message 101 of 786 (685028)
12-20-2012 7:20 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by kofh2u
12-19-2012 10:53 PM


Re: kofh2u
kofh2u writes:

So the issue of the whether the gun kills people or people raised by single mothers kill people is a no-no here?

From the Forum Guidelines:

  1. Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.

Please follow the Forum Guidelines. If you'd like to discuss a new topic then propose a thread for it over at Proposed New Topics.


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Message 103 of 786 (685672)
12-24-2012 8:35 PM
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12-23-2012 9:45 AM


Re: kofh2u
See Message 43.

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Message 114 of 786 (690674)
02-15-2013 9:19 AM
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02-15-2013 8:26 AM


To Coyote, Panda
Thanks for the comments. We were already a little concerned that Coolbeans may be more interested in topic proposals than discussion, it's good to know that perception is shared. My own leaning is to let his two open proposals sit until he displays more of an inclination toward discussion in his other threads.

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Message 133 of 786 (693977)
03-21-2013 9:11 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by Faith
03-20-2013 10:21 PM


Faith writes:

I have another complaint about Theodoric whose MO seems to be nothing but posturing, snark and namecalling, tactics aimed at intimidation instead of sticking to the topic, as in Message 864

You are pitiful.

In the absence of PurpleDawn no one is moderating the religious forums. I can check threads when people think things are spiraling out of control, but the Morality without god thread seems to be on a fairly even keel.


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Message 136 of 786 (694013)
03-21-2013 11:26 AM
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Yes, I know. But I do not usually moderate religious threads unless things get truly out of hand or the issues are very clear cut. Plus I haven't the time to take on more moderation tasks at present.

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Message 143 of 786 (694148)
03-22-2013 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Straggler
03-22-2013 12:44 PM


Re: ...destroying their erroneous statements...
Straggler writes:

These self-constructed graphics linking science and religion - Did you invent them or discover them?

I think these images that Kofh2u has posted so many times and that have become so familiar should be restricted to the Kof2hu's 22 species corresponding to Genesis thread. Anyone who notices these images being posted to any other thread should please bring it to the attention of moderators by posting a note here. Thanks.


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