I've lost track of what the topic in question is, and Cavediver didn't give a link. Anyway...
Why do we put up with this idiot? Moose has just closed a perfectly respectable, topical, and interesting thread (and I don't blame Moose) because it has been trolled by FEY, and others simply can't help feeding the troll. We're not remedial school, we're not here to handhold some angsty teenager through pubescence, and I don't see why discussion and debate should be curtailed because of one immature poster.
And this has nothing at all to do with that twit jeering everyone in sight, resulting in me losing my perfect 10 score. Not at all. Doesn't bother me one bit. Nope. Did I mention it was 10 before he starting being a twat?
First of all, I don't normally give "Cheers" to messages from the admin mode ID, but I felt Cavediver made a good moderation issue point - "...and others simply can't help feeding the troll.". It's pretty hard for an individual to cause major topic problems without the support of others, be it "feeding the troll" or just blindly "chasing the off-topic" (these may be one and the same). Self moderation by members would be VERY helpful.
Foreveryoung has the burden of being of the minority perspective side. If that wasn't tough enough, he also has publicly admitted to having very significant psychological problems. Thus, I am bending over backwards to try to make this place a beneficial experience for him (aka - not banning him permanently).
Dr Adequate, in response to Cavediver, in message 57, writes:
Because he has a spark of intelligence and morality in him. Deep down inside him, I believe, there is a good and sane person fighting to get out.
I fully agree (OSLT).
Huntard, in response to Cavediver, in message 59, writes:
Quite. You know what would've been a perfectly viable solution? Asking him to stop posting to that thread. Problem would've resolved itself within 10 messages after the request, and we could've had a reasonable discussion about the glory of a true European Union / World Government.
An even more immediate solution would have been for others not to post responses (which, since FEY was off-topic, were also off-topic). Sometimes I just want to find the problem message and the chain of responses to that message, and suspend everyone involved.
Problem would've resolved itself within 10 messages after the request,...
I wouldn't bet on it, even if FEY did stop posting. Others could well carry on without his input.
A similar problem is the various other members also chasing kofh2u's "doesn't belong in the topic material".
My moderation message in question in the topic in question is here, where I said:
Things global warming are off-topic...
...and I hate seeing a good discussion get buried in a topic it doesn't belong in.
I put "off-topic" banners on some real good messages. Please find a better home for that information.
The "Off Topic..." topic was started by Faith because of the "Heat release" topic was badly going off-topic (Indeed, I did also post an "off-topic" message there, and also "Off-Topic" bannered a bunch of messages.
I had mixed feelings about the new topic. It very much was needed, was set up with a fairly specific theme, but also left things open to make it a catch all topic. And did bypass the Proposed New Topics procedure and did not belong in the "Coffee House". Anyway, the global warming/energy alternative sub-theme broke out, and I thought that sub-theme and it's (some POTM worthy) messages were way off the real original topic theme and deserved a better home.
I hate seeing a good discussion happening in a bad place.
So, what didn't someone just start a new "Global Warming / Energy Alternatives" topic?
is the same question-begging as I thought the title was, and just as biased toward the Darwinian camp.
In the beginning, evcforum.net was set up as a site for science discussion. If a creationist believed that science supported his/her creationist beliefs, then this was the place to discuss it. The "Science Forums" forums.
Things have since diversified from that beginning, resulting in general discussions ("Coffee House") and more purely theological discussions (the various "Social and Religious Issues" forums. Of course, things that belong in one area tend to also slop over into another area.
I'm not discussing the third world. I'm pointing out to you the obvious fact that you can't make radical changes to the economies of the first world without affecting the economies of the third. If you're intent on making an argument about marginal utility, you can't do it by excluding the majority of the people on the planet.
I'm not much up on this topic, but my instincts are that the discussion (at least in the context of this forum) can be narrowed to exclude third world considerations. Just like how we try to keep a more narrow focus in science topics - While things must also fit into the big picture, that doesn't mean we can't try to restrict a topic to considering the small picture.
Judgement: Jon is correct in the context of a topic at this forum. Tangle is correct in the context of the real world. OSLT.
And shame on you for running crying to mummy.
Jon submitted what he considered to be a forum discussion problem. Even if it isn't judged to be such, he still followed proper procedure.
We switched to having Moose approve registrations a couple years ago (the registration process can be modified through control panel settings), but registrations diminished, so we abandoned that to see if registrations would pick up again. I don't think they have, so if Moose wants to resume approving registrations then that would be fine.
Even before this massive spam flood, the spammer to non-spammer ratio was pretty high. I suspended quite a few before they posted, although a lot of the recent spammers just had spam homepages and I suspect they never intended to actually post any messages.
I'll set things to approval required, and will review things before OKing.
Most to all of the previous messages (in "Report Discussion Problems Here 4.0"), by LamarkNewAge and others, do not belong in this "report problems" topic. As quoted above, LNA was given a very specific place to reply about moderation issues, which is not this topic.
He is censoring my posts at a totally wacko rate without any rhyme or reason...
I searched each page of Faith posts at "The Right Side of the News (formerly In the News)", for the phrase "Edited by Admin", and only found one message where Admin had done an edit, which was to change the display size of a youtube video.
Might we have a clue where some of the censorings might be found?