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Message 73 of 707 (682612)
12-04-2012 6:56 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Faith
12-03-2012 12:40 PM


Re: Off topic runaway (Catholicism versus Protestantism)
Faith seems to have valid points. Rather than have a moderator comment get lost/ignored in the topic in question, let this message be the warning - Get/be on topic and be nice about it.

There. Warning done. Suspensions come next.

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Message 78 of 707 (683058)
12-06-2012 11:38 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by NoNukes
12-01-2012 3:24 AM


The "The SEVEN "DAYS" WERE GEOLOGICAL ERAS" topic
Is this new thread Message 1 legitimate? I don't see any question posed.

Legitimate? Probably not. But I thought that it truly needed to be isolated into it's own topic. Although, in hindsight, I shouldn't have put it into the "Dates and Dating" forum.

NO REPLIES TO THIS MESSAGE IN THIS TOPIC. ANY DISCUSSION SHOULD GO TO THE General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List') TOPIC.

By the way, the Crashfrog and whomever was also taking part discussion (upthread) really shouldn't have happened in this topic. Bad, very bad.

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Message 79 of 707 (683059)
12-07-2012 12:23 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by cavediver
11-28-2012 5:36 AM


Re: Forever having another meltdown?
I've lost track of what the topic in question is, and Cavediver didn't give a link. Anyway...

Cavediver writes:

Why do we put up with this idiot? Moose has just closed a perfectly respectable, topical, and interesting thread (and I don't blame Moose) because it has been trolled by FEY, and others simply can't help feeding the troll. We're not remedial school, we're not here to handhold some angsty teenager through pubescence, and I don't see why discussion and debate should be curtailed because of one immature poster.

And this has nothing at all to do with that twit jeering everyone in sight, resulting in me losing my perfect 10 score. Not at all. Doesn't bother me one bit. Nope. Did I mention it was 10 before he starting being a twat?

First of all, I don't normally give "Cheers" to messages from the admin mode ID, but I felt Cavediver made a good moderation issue point - "...and others simply can't help feeding the troll.". It's pretty hard for an individual to cause major topic problems without the support of others, be it "feeding the troll" or just blindly "chasing the off-topic" (these may be one and the same). Self moderation by members would be VERY helpful.

Foreveryoung has the burden of being of the minority perspective side. If that wasn't tough enough, he also has publicly admitted to having very significant psychological problems. Thus, I am bending over backwards to try to make this place a beneficial experience for him (aka - not banning him permanently).

Dr Adequate, in response to Cavediver, in message 57, writes:

Because he has a spark of intelligence and morality in him. Deep down inside him, I believe, there is a good and sane person fighting to get out.

I fully agree (OSLT).

Huntard, in response to Cavediver, in message 59, writes:

Quite. You know what would've been a perfectly viable solution? Asking him to stop posting to that thread. Problem would've resolved itself within 10 messages after the request, and we could've had a reasonable discussion about the glory of a true European Union / World Government.

I think....

An even more immediate solution would have been for others not to post responses (which, since FEY was off-topic, were also off-topic). Sometimes I just want to find the problem message and the chain of responses to that message, and suspend everyone involved.

Problem would've resolved itself within 10 messages after the request,...

I wouldn't bet on it, even if FEY did stop posting. Others could well carry on without his input.

A similar problem is the various other members also chasing kofh2u's "doesn't belong in the topic material".

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THIS MATTER MUST GO TO THE General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List') TOPIC.

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Message 105 of 707 (685920)
12-27-2012 11:43 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by NoNukes
12-27-2012 9:51 AM


Re: Off topic moderation
The topic in question is Off Topic Posts aka The Rabbit Trail Thread.

This topic is a spin-off of Heat release from tectonic friction.

My moderation message in question in the topic in question is here, where I said:

Adminnemooseus writes:

Things global warming are off-topic...

...and I hate seeing a good discussion get buried in a topic it doesn't belong in.

I put "off-topic" banners on some real good messages. Please find a better home for that information.

Adminnemooseus

The "Off Topic..." topic was started by Faith because of the "Heat release" topic was badly going off-topic (Indeed, I did also post an "off-topic" message there, and also "Off-Topic" bannered a bunch of messages.

I had mixed feelings about the new topic. It very much was needed, was set up with a fairly specific theme, but also left things open to make it a catch all topic. And did bypass the Proposed New Topics procedure and did not belong in the "Coffee House". Anyway, the global warming/energy alternative sub-theme broke out, and I thought that sub-theme and it's (some POTM worthy) messages were way off the real original topic theme and deserved a better home.

I hate seeing a good discussion happening in a bad place.

So, what didn't someone just start a new "Global Warming / Energy Alternatives" topic?

Please, any further discussion should go to the General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List') topic. If so, please include a link back to here.

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Message 111 of 707 (690347)
02-12-2013 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by mindspawn
02-12-2013 2:02 AM


Seems to be a lot a validity in the complaint
Not going to do anything right now - Maybe tomorrow.

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Message 122 of 707 (691674)
02-23-2013 9:27 PM


Maybe many suspensions coming
Which part of the topic title's

(NOT A DISCUSSION TOPIC!!!)

do you people not understand?

Is it that you think "blather" doesn't count as "discussion"?

Any replyer to this message will certainly get suspended. Maybe I'll get to the blatherers in general later.

Adminnemooseus

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fix goof.


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Message 218 of 707 (725506)
04-27-2014 8:45 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by Ed67
04-27-2014 6:14 PM


The evolution of this forum
is the same question-begging as I thought the title was, and just as biased toward the Darwinian camp.

In the beginning, evcforum.net was set up as a site for science discussion. If a creationist believed that science supported his/her creationist beliefs, then this was the place to discuss it. The "Science Forums" forums.

Things have since diversified from that beginning, resulting in general discussions ("Coffee House") and more purely theological discussions (the various "Social and Religious Issues" forums. Of course, things that belong in one area tend to also slop over into another area.

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Message 336 of 707 (757945)
05-16-2015 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 334 by Tangle
05-15-2015 4:23 AM


Re: Economic Growth Thread
I'm not discussing the third world. I'm pointing out to you the obvious fact that you can't make radical changes to the economies of the first world without affecting the economies of the third. If you're intent on making an argument about marginal utility, you can't do it by excluding the majority of the people on the planet.

I'm not much up on this topic, but my instincts are that the discussion (at least in the context of this forum) can be narrowed to exclude third world considerations. Just like how we try to keep a more narrow focus in science topics - While things must also fit into the big picture, that doesn't mean we can't try to restrict a topic to considering the small picture.

Judgement: Jon is correct in the context of a topic at this forum. Tangle is correct in the context of the real world. OSLT.

And shame on you for running crying to mummy.

Jon submitted what he considered to be a forum discussion problem. Even if it isn't judged to be such, he still followed proper procedure.

Please take any further discussion of this matter to General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List'), and there supply a link back to this message.

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Message 341 of 707 (758844)
06-04-2015 3:47 AM
Reply to: Message 340 by AZPaul3
06-04-2015 3:11 AM


Re: Wha??
I've already filed a message in the Private Administration Forum, having the subtitle "Weird spammer(?)".

Adminnemooseus

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Change ID.


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Message 369 of 707 (765353)
07-27-2015 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 367 by Admin
07-27-2015 12:20 PM


Re: Spam Cleanup Completed
We switched to having Moose approve registrations a couple years ago (the registration process can be modified through control panel settings), but registrations diminished, so we abandoned that to see if registrations would pick up again. I don't think they have, so if Moose wants to resume approving registrations then that would be fine.

Even before this massive spam flood, the spammer to non-spammer ratio was pretty high. I suspended quite a few before they posted, although a lot of the recent spammers just had spam homepages and I suspect they never intended to actually post any messages.

I'll set things to approval required, and will review things before OKing.

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Message 381 of 707 (765995)
08-08-2015 10:39 PM


Temporarily closing topic - Find a better place for current thing
Hey, there's a "Whine List" topic!

General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List')

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Message 533 of 707 (804536)
04-10-2017 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 532 by LamarkNewAge
04-10-2017 12:36 AM


Re: Also I just noticed that the Alabama issue touched a few Mod's nerves
NOTE THE SUBTITLE.

This must be referring to my message 1007:

Adminnemooseus writes:

I have a lot of trouble even describing what I see wrong with your messages.

I definitely would not file them under "clear and concise". Maybe "cryptic and rambling"?

I wouldn't blame anyone for just ignoring your messages.

No replies in this topic. If you feel the need to reply (and I know you do), go to General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List').

Most to all of the previous messages (in "Report Discussion Problems Here 4.0"), by LamarkNewAge and others, do not belong in this "report problems" topic. As quoted above, LNA was given a very specific place to reply about moderation issues, which is not this topic.

LamarkNewAge suspended for 48 hours.

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Message 566 of 707 (806626)
04-26-2017 10:44 PM


Davidjay is Admin's (Percy's) resposibilty now
I want to ban Davidjay forever, but Admin wants to "follow proper procedure".

I much preferred David Mabus messages.

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Message 690 of 707 (851896)
05-04-2019 12:45 AM
Reply to: Message 689 by Faith
05-03-2019 11:39 PM


Re: The Mad Censor
He is censoring my posts at a totally wacko rate without any rhyme or reason...

I searched each page of Faith posts at "The Right Side of the News (formerly In the News)", for the phrase "Edited by Admin", and only found one message where Admin had done an edit, which was to change the display size of a youtube video.

Might we have a clue where some of the censorings might be found?

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Message 692 of 707 (851899)
05-04-2019 1:10 AM
Reply to: Message 691 by Faith
05-04-2019 12:52 AM


Re: The Mad Censor
I don't know what happened at that message, but I doesn't appear to be an action by any admin (Admin, or any other admin).

If Admin had edited that message, there would be a little "Edited by Admin" at the message bottom.

Oddly, the raw ("peek") version of the message does not seem to correlate with what is in the normal display version of the message.

My guess is that there is something odd in one or more of those links, that is causing the wacky display.

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