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I apologize to the members for over reacting to LNA's BS. I forgot that he's a commie MAGAt, best ignored.

First the Financial thread:Theodoric kept telling me to provide a link showing profits are 15 to 20 percent of the pharmaceutical drug industry.I provided a reference to the Center For American Progress August 30 2019 piece which quoted and linked to a GAO study, showing 2018 saw prescription drugs marketplace totaling $535 billion with profits fluctuating in the 15 to 20 percent range.The GAO is the United States government's General Accounting Office.The CFAP link also shows the price it costs to produce insulin (I wanted Taq to help me understand the difference between a vial COMPARED to a yearly supply, because I feel like there were two different measurements in the CFAP text) in the United States.Theodoric kept harassing me (3 times, even though I provided a source) over my non-controversial position (to start with) that profits are around 15 to 20 percent, AS IF I DID NOT SOURCE IT.Taq was the one who made it sound like profits are, literally ten times more than the cost to produce,market, and distribute the drugs.I was trying to figure out a way to show how he was not looking at the big picture - which is what matters.(I am going to start a new thread on drugs, because Theodoric's disruptive bombardment stopped a discussion where we coukd have ALL learned about prescription drug prices. I was hoping to learn about the different cost of different insulin products, and what people generally use worldwide)OTHER ISSUEA Moderator claimed that I have not been sourcing claims in the War In Europe thread. Tell the moderator to be more specific. My most recent reference was to the conservative Los Angeles Times , which is pro war & anti Russia. So I have no idea what is being referred to. I can back up every claim I make with mainstream sources. Easily)

No moderator has posted to the The War in Europe thread since Message 972 last July. I did post Message 971 to you in the Climate Change Denier comes in from the cold: SCIENCE!!! thread earlier today.And Adminnemooseus posted Message 274 about you over in the Suspensions and Bannings Part III thread earlier today.

Did you read message 274?That is the one I am referencing.

And the biggest reason that people are bitching, is because I get arguments over issues that should not even be considered controversial.I never get the chance to get around to areas where we might "agree" on Russia & Ukraine, because people can't understand even the basics.One area of BIG (if you have any grip on reality) importance is the public opinion polls of Eastern Ukraine:People like to dismiss polls (and referendums), when they don't show evidence consistent with a pre-conception, but I don't have any pre-conception problem, like posters here have.The uncritically minded here might "agree" with me (but we go about forming opinions in a very different way) when I plan on showing:Public opinion polls in eastern Ukraine show only one percent of respondents in south Ukraine, and four percent in eastern Ukraine have a positive view of Russia.My views are always in the context of a theory/hypothesis that can be falsified, unlike the posters here.Clearly, something has changed between 2014/2015, 2015-Feb 2022, and the 2022-2024 period.But, it is hard to talk to uncritically minded people, even when we might agree on a big issue. I will try to explain why, on the coming weeks - with examples.

Yes. Quoting Message 274 from the Suspensions and Bannings Part III thread (not the The War in Europe thread):

In order to promote constructive discussion I am setting your daily post limit to 1. If you want a higher limit you will have to earn it back.

The Adminnemooseus individual should post the issues that he/she/it feels I introduced, but which need a credible source.My comments are actually pretty much 100 percent based on mainstream background details.I say I can easily source any issue Adminnemooseus raisesBut people have to be willing TO READ THE SOURCE.Theodoric has been caught multiple times ignoring evidence.He asked for a source documenting Ukraine executing pacifist mayors.I referenced Volodymyr Struk.He ignored the reference. He actually said it was "off topic".So, no discussion developed, even though I solidly provided evidence

Looking at your messages in "The War in Europe" topic, up to the suspension date:One month into the war, you had posted 111 message, at least some of them absolutely worthless.In those 111 messages, you supplied a total of 3 links of uncertain quality (I didn't now look at the linked sites).You plastered the topic with countless little factoids of dubious validity. With a total of 3 links, also of dubious validity.I don't know who lifted your suspension when. You were gone from the topic for 2 years 1 month.Adminnemooseus

As a believer, I have often found myself off-topic in many of the threads regarding Jesus mythism and/or Historical Jesus studies.I fully agree with the latter three points.

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I do agree that they are often said (by EvC critics) to be irrelevant or off-topic.One good thing about having ChatGPT around here is that I don't find myself disagreeing with the bot nearly as much as I do with other humans.Regarding LNA, (and voicing it to you personally) I see that there are personal issues between members in many areas. All that any of us can do is to follow the Forum Guidelines

From Message 438 Upon looking up the assertion by LNA, I found that he did have a valid source.
Roosevelt InstituteIt was referenced also.

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This broken system may not be producing good health outcomes for Americans, but it is
resulting in record profits for the pharmaceutical industry. Between 2006 and 2015, revenue
from pharmaceutical and biotechnology sales rose from $534 billion to $775 billion in adjusted
dollars (US GAO 2017). During that time, 67 percent of drug companies increased their annual
profits—with some seeing as much as 20 percent higher profit margins in a single year (US GAO 2017).

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In summation, I see a personality clash. LNA is admittedly a Marxist and has traditionally represented third-world interests rather than imperialistic interests. (if it can be phrased as such) The peanut gallery are by and large social Democrats who patriotically and unequivocally support most of what Joe Biden does...including support for NATO and against Russian aggression.LNA should never have resorted to calling Theo a retard. That demands an apology.
Conversely, Theo might consider that LNA is limited to a phone that does not scroll and that English may not be his first language. Empathy towards members who do not share our views is encouraged. (Or simply ignore them)MY CONCLUSION: A verbal warning to both members, with LNA being reprimanded for personal attacks.

You are delusional. What you derisively keep calling the "peanut gallery" is just your fellow debaters noting that your posts are full of errors and baseless claims.And your fellow debaters are not "by and large Social Democrats who patriotically and unequivocally support most of what Joe Biden does." A Social Democrat is an actual for real socialist like Bernie Sanders, and none of us here are socialists. And you're misinterpreting their dismissal of your nonsense as support for Biden. Naturally if it's a decision between Biden and Trump then the choice is clear, but that doesn't translate to "unequivocal support for most of what Joe Biden does."What you're really doing is revealing your closet Trump supporter status. You say you dislike Trump, yet your positions align almost perfectly with his. This is not a personality clash. LNA's positions are impenetrable. Who knows what they are. My most common response to LNA has been, "I don't know what you're on about," and others have made similar statements. And he can't follow the Forum Guidelines, despite constant reminders. He posts contain baseless claims, lengthy cut-n-pastes, and sometimes links with a lengthy cut-n-paste. We get very few of his own words, very few responses to anything anyone said, and rarely anything cohesive and sensible.If he wants to fix this it is up to him. He is permitted one post per day for now. His next post has to be after 9:10 ET this evening, should he so choose. I will up his post limit as I see non-abusive rational evidence-based arguments in his posts.

There's a problem here. Your own quote says that drug profits increased by 20%. Yet you claim that as support for the drug profits being no more than 20%.

Admin, that seems like a really tough situation with LNA's communication style and content. It can be frustrating when someone isn't adhering to guidelines or participating in a productive way. Setting limits on their posting frequency seems like a good step to try and encourage more thoughtful engagement from them. Hopefully, with some guidance and feedback, LNA can improve their contributions to the forum. It's important to create an environment where everyone can have respectful, evidence-based discussions.

The saccharin is strong with this one.