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onifre
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Message 16 of 20 (677780)
11-01-2012 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by jar
11-01-2012 11:22 AM


Re: I doubt if NYC will come out much ahead...
The reason to mention that I am a Texan was to point out that I was NOT speaking in this case as someone who needed the help, rather as someone outside.
Gotcha.
A lot though would disagree with you, I think. Many people for reasons of money and the meer mention of taxes would tell those (especially in NY, NJ and the New England areas) to fuck off.
- Oni
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jar
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Message 17 of 20 (677784)
11-01-2012 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by onifre
11-01-2012 11:58 AM


Re: I doubt if NYC will come out much ahead...
Taxes are good and in the US we certainly do not tax like we should. The problem is again a matter of education. The US sucks when it comes to actually educating people.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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fearandloathing
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Message 18 of 20 (677809)
11-01-2012 2:27 PM


Aerial Damage Pics From NOAA
Maryland, Delaware and Jersey coast.
http://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/sandy/
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Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'
― Isaac Asimov
"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them" - Ray Bradbury

  
fearandloathing
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Message 19 of 20 (677886)
11-02-2012 11:04 AM


Aerial Damage Pics of NYC
http://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/sandy/
NYC now included along with the Norfolk VA Beach area. If you use Google satellite as your base layer then you can cut the response imagery on and off and get a before and after effect.

Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'
― Isaac Asimov
"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them" - Ray Bradbury

  
Percy
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Message 20 of 20 (678099)
11-05-2012 8:20 AM


Jersey Shore Hard Hit
We used to have a house in Beach Haven, NJ, a 30-mile long barrier island off the coast just north of Atlantic City. It was very hard hit and is closed, no word on when it will reopen, but it will be at least weeks. Residents and business owners are being allowed access only on demonstrated need. Population of the island is around 9000 year round, around 100,000 in the summer.
An even longer "barrier island" (in quotes because it connects to the mainland at a tiny sliver at the north end) is just north of Long Beach Island and was even harder hit. Photographs of the famous roller coaster at the rides and attactions pier of Seaside Park lying in the ocean have appeared in the news many times, here's one:
It isn't visible in the picture above where just to the right of the foundering roller coaster is the pier itself, the corner where the roller coaster resided gone:
Much of the "island" survived but is inundated with sand:
One of the major causeways is unusable:
And of course at least a million people in NJ are without power, and gas is scarce because so many gas stations do not have electricity to pump their gas, same with the transfer stations where the tankers fill up before delivering gas.
AbE: I should have mentioned that the state and federal government have been resistant for some time to residency on barrier islands. Economic interests and sheer numbers of people affected preclude abandonment of these islands, but the debate will likely begin again.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : AbE.

  
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