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Omnivorous

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Message 5 of 558 (677882)
11-02-2012 10:50 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by Alfred Maddenstein
11-02-2012 8:16 AM

AM writes:

I cannot conceive a single atom to be created out of nothing or being turned into nothing.

...

Mr. Hawking is the idiot idol of the cryptic lot...

All your posts here boil down to insults based on arguments from incredulity.

In contrast, Hawking can show us his work.

Please show us yours.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Omnivorous

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Message 7 of 558 (677888)
11-02-2012 11:07 AM

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11-02-2012 10:58 AM

Tanypteryx writes:

Oh Great! Now he's going to be leaving dead mice on the doorstep.

Improvement.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Omnivorous

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Message 249 of 558 (680124)
11-17-2012 6:52 PM

Reply to: Message 238 by ICANT
11-17-2012 12:58 PM

Re: Still garbled.

ICANT writes:

The universe exists today.

It either has either existed eternally in some form.

It had a beginning to exist in non-existence.

I see no alternative and none has been presented to date.

What does the word "universe" mean to you?

Edited by Omnivorous, : No reason given.

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Omnivorous

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Message 266 of 558 (680238)
11-18-2012 5:52 PM

Reply to: Message 252 by ICANT
11-17-2012 8:29 PM

Two existences

ICANT writes:

Hi Omnivorous,

Omnivorous writes:

What does the word "universe" mean to you?

All that exists in what we call the universe. I have been told by cavediver and others there is nothing outside of the universe.

But I do believe that there is existence outside of the universe in which the universe exists and expands.

God Bless,

How does the "existence outside of the universe" differ from "the universe" that "exists and expands"?

Did the existence outside of the universe also either always exist or come into existence in nonexistence?

Or do these two existences differ in some profound way?

And how do you determine their similar or dissimilar status?

Thanks. Walk in beauty.

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Omnivorous

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Message 300 of 558 (680457)
11-19-2012 3:54 PM

Reply to: Message 298 by ICANT
11-19-2012 3:07 PM

Reply requested

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ICANT writes:

Hi Omnivorous,
Omnivorous writes:

What does the word "universe" mean to you?
All that exists in what we call the universe. I have been told by cavediver and others there is nothing outside of the universe.

But I do believe that there is existence outside of the universe in which the universe exists and expands.

God Bless,

How does the "existence outside of the universe" differ from "the universe" that "exists and expands"?

Did the existence outside of the universe also either always exist or come into existence in nonexistence?

Or do these two existences differ in some profound way?

And how do you determine their similar or dissimilar status?

I know you've been busy with many replies, but I'd appreciate a response to my earlier post, quoted above.

Thanks.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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