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Jon
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Message 14 of 203 (678159)
11-05-2012 5:39 PM


The presidential race appears a done deal.
It's down to the Legislature.

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Jon
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Message 43 of 203 (678235)
11-06-2012 6:50 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Coyote
11-05-2012 11:38 PM


The "right thing" was understood from the beginning as reelecting Obama.
And now it is time for you to tell us your own version of the 'right thing'.
Or do you think voting for Romney really is the wrong thing, but are just going to do it anyway?

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Jon
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Message 81 of 203 (678344)
11-07-2012 7:22 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by jar
11-06-2012 9:32 PM


Re: Thanks Jon
Me?
I am from Minnesota. And we've been doing the right thing for decades

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Jon
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Message 129 of 203 (678707)
11-09-2012 11:33 PM


Sittin' Perdy
Minnesota's sittin' nice:
quote:
"Minnesota Legislature: Democrats regain control" from TwinCities.com:
Democrats regained control of the Minnesota Legislature Tuesday, Nov. 6, putting them in charge of both chambers and the governor's office for the first time in 22 years.
Us St. Cloudians with brains tried our hardest to get that crazy she-ape out of the U.S. House, but we were outvoted by the loons that live down in the marshes.
Funny thing, when you look at the map in this link, it is actually the most populated areas of the state that went Republican, in contrast to what is seen on the national map as a whole.
Edited by Jon, : No reason given.
Edited by Jon, : just can't get nothin' write!

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Jon
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Message 139 of 203 (678948)
11-11-2012 8:02 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by RAZD
11-11-2012 3:32 PM


Re: electoral college
What is wrong with the system as it is? It puts the power to choose President into the hands of each individual state rather than into the hands of the people as a whole.
Isn't that how all of our elections work? I didn't get to decide who California sent to D.C. as one of their senators. The people of California decided as a state who they wanted in their senate chair. Similarly, I didn't get to decide who California supported for President; the people of California decided as a state who they supported for President.
It's state-based, like every other election for Federal office in the country.
What do you have against the States?

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Jon
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Message 144 of 203 (678982)
11-11-2012 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by NoNukes
11-11-2012 8:27 PM


Re: electoral college
So you are okay with the fact that everyone in Rhode Island's vote for president counts more than yours?
I am okay with the fact that each State chooses as a single entity which presidential candidate it wants in the White House and that the weight of that choice is a factor of the state's population.
Can you tell me for which other Federal offices the American people as a whole vote directly rather than on a state-by-state basis?
Why should that be the case?
Why shouldn't it? Per person, Rhode Island also has more U.S. representatives than Minnesota.
The Electoral College is perhaps unnecessary, but it's not as bad as you make it out to be. It is pretty much in line with how the rest of the system worksthat is, each person's vote only sort of kind of counts the same as everyone else's vote.
Jon

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Jon
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Message 149 of 203 (679017)
11-11-2012 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by crashfrog
11-11-2012 9:42 PM


Re: electoral college
They're terrible and useless and should be disbanded. There's a legitimate need for local government and a legitimate need for national government. There's no rational purpose for having intermediate pseudo-state government in between.
State governments handle matters not suitable to be handled by local or Federal government.

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Jon
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Message 151 of 203 (679040)
11-11-2012 11:54 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by crashfrog
11-11-2012 10:25 PM


Re: electoral college
There are no such matters.
Says a has-been toad in a little blue vest.
Anything relevant to a single geographic area is appropriate for the local government.
I'd be more than a little perturb to find the smooth four-lane highway I was traveling on suddenly switch into a single-lane dirt road upon crossing county lines...
Anything relevant to multiple communities as a whole is appropriate for the national government, because it's a problem faced by all communities.
... and I'd be equally perturb to find out that my Federal government didn't have anything better with which to concern itself than how comfortable my Thanksgiving drive back home was.
Seriously crash...
I didn't think your outlandish ignorance could get any worse than it already was, but seeing what you are proposing here really has me questioning that think.
Though I guess nothing ridiculous you say should surprise me anymore.
Jon
ABE: If you want to talk more about this, I think we should set up a separate thread for it. You can do it or I will.
Edited by Jon, : No reason given.

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Jon
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Message 155 of 203 (679208)
11-12-2012 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by crashfrog
11-12-2012 9:59 PM


Re: electoral college
Why should the roads be different just because you drive on them from Minnesota to Iowa?
Because the Federal government has better things to worry about.
Yet you drove home on Federal Interstate 35, probably. Or maybe Federal Interstate 94. I did all the time, when I lived in Minnesota. But I guess knowing about the Federal Eisenhower Interstate System - and you not having heard of it, apparently - is more evidence of my "ignorance."
Ironically, management of the Interstates is within the hands of the individual States through whose land the Interstates cross.
You understand that I'm not actually a frog, right?
I wouldn't be so sure about that...
Jon
ABE: Continue here: Message 1
Edited by Jon, : No reason given.

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