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Theodoric
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Message 20 of 409 (678544)
11-08-2012 10:29 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by DevilsAdvocate
11-08-2012 10:20 PM


Re: One Day
Can you put money where your mouth is and tell me what progressive, collectivist, anti-traditionalism means?

Good luck.

I am still waiting for explanations on some other parroting he did on another thread. Forever seems to make a habit of saying things that he doesn't understand. Well at least he seems to be incapable of explaining them.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 28 of 409 (678561)
11-09-2012 1:25 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by foreveryoung
11-09-2012 1:10 AM


Re: One Day
I was talking about forced communal farming. What fearmongering are you talking about. I was only speaking to reality.

So who is advocating collectivization?

You really need to stay away from Glenn Beck.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 39 of 409 (678601)
11-09-2012 9:37 AM
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11-09-2012 8:39 AM


Re: One Day
The Unions are collectivism, albeit Syndicalism, aren't they?

Mmm, no.

You really need to understand what words mean if you want to use them.

This is Marxism

Again, learn what words mean. This is not true
Adam Smith, the ideological father of capitalism, understood there was a huge advantage for employers and the need for some sort of ability by the workers to organize.
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It is not, however, difficult to foresee which of the two parties must, upon all ordinary occasions, have the advantage in the dispute, and force the other into a compliance with their terms. The masters, being fewer in number, can combine much more easily; and the law, besides, authorizes, or at least does not prohibit their combinations, while it prohibits those of the workmen. We have no acts of parliament against combining to lower the price of work; but many against combining to raise it. In all such disputes the masters can hold out much longer. A landlord, a farmer, a master manufacturer, a merchant, though they did not employ a single workman, could generally live a year or two upon the stocks which they have already acquired. Many workmen could not subsist a week, few could subsist a month, and scarce any a year without employment. In the long run the workman may be as necessary to his master as his master is to him; but the necessity is not so immediate.

The price increases for the goods or services produced is used to pay "profits" to both the traditional corporate leadership and then the Union leaders

Any idea how a Union works?

This is De facto, a Tax on the larger society, re-distributed to workers in key economic positions, and add-on in the price of the goods

Not a tax in any sense of the word. If this were true. ANything the owner makes is a "a Tax on the larger society,..and add-on in the price of the goods."

You really need a class on basic economics. If wages are suppressed and there is no collective bargaining then wealth will be concentrated in the hands of the few. Then no one can buy the products or services.

We call that a death spiral.

Please, please, back your assertions with some facts or at least support by someone moderately reputable.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 56 of 409 (678694)
11-09-2012 9:57 PM
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11-09-2012 5:32 PM


Re: One Day
Words have definitions. You really should use the accepted definitions.

You are really a funny guy if you believe a raise in your Public Utility costs isn't tax money which has merely circumvented the normal collection process simply because you re-define the connotation of the word Tax or those other words you need review.

I have no idea what these means or what you are trying to say here. Want to try again and attempt a coherent sentence?

When the Teachers Union demands full pay retirement benefits after 30 years employment, the Real Estate Taxes MUST go up to get that money set aside into their retirement fund.

So teachers shouldn't get a retirement? What is your point here?

It you own a home, review the tax paid to your county every year and you will see than @80% of that tax is School Tax.

How would you know what % of my taxes goes toward schools? It is actually a little under 50%. I have no problem with what I pay in property taxes. I get good value for the taxes I pay.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 73 of 409 (679296)
11-13-2012 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by jar
11-13-2012 8:54 AM


Re: On discrimination
That is why a Creationist can never honestly be a scientist.

Also, why any discussion with Faith is a waste of time. Rational discussion is impossible with her and Forever.

Faiths comments on another thread about the Catholic church and the inquisition should disqualify her as being a person one can have a rational conversation with.


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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 288 of 409 (680635)
11-20-2012 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 276 by Faith
11-20-2012 10:50 AM


Re: Getting to the details. -- biblical references please
I read the Bible the way it was meant to be read, which is sometimes literal, sometimes poetic, sometimes symbolic, sometimes figurative and so on and so forth

Please provide the codebook to determine when to read it in the many different ways.

Maybe then we can all get on the same page; literally and figuratively.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 293 of 409 (680641)
11-20-2012 11:56 AM
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11-20-2012 11:49 AM


Re: The Flood dissolved stuff but ROCKS? Hardly
And how do you make fertile soils?

Here is an example that did not require a god.

Terra Petra

Sorry off topic, but I think a very interesting subject.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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