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foreveryoung
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Message 31 of 274 (678996)
11-11-2012 9:52 PM


Correction on my last reply to Theodoric: The article was from Salon.com. I am going back and reading what I initially read to see where the differing stories of what actually happened came from.

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Message 32 of 274 (678998)
11-11-2012 9:53 PM
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11-11-2012 9:48 PM


Re: Coulter not banned
Do you know the origin and position of the Society of Jesus, that they are Conservative, that they were formed during the period called the counter-reformation; that they opposed the liberalism that was the Reformation?
Do you know what the term "conservative" means?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 33 of 274 (678999)
11-11-2012 9:53 PM
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11-11-2012 9:30 PM


I will let my developmentally disabled son know that calling people retards is an acceptable way to insult people.
You are as foul and offensive as Ms. Coulter is.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 34 of 274 (679000)
11-11-2012 9:55 PM
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11-11-2012 9:48 PM


Re: Coulter not banned
foreveryoung writes:
All I did was read an article from Slate Magazine. All I did was summarize my understanding of it.
Perhaps you should have provided the link.

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Message 35 of 274 (679002)
11-11-2012 9:56 PM
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11-11-2012 9:40 PM


theodoric writes:
Care to present any of this ugly rhetoric?
copy and paste random editorial columns from any non conservative paper in this country. It will be an easy job for me to show you the hateful rhetoric.
So that would be a no. No is much easier to type so you should have just gone with that.
You are just parroting again. If you provided some support for your assertions, someone might actually take a look at them. Until then you are just parroting wing nut crap.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 36 of 274 (679004)
11-11-2012 10:00 PM


Here is the article in question. I was right Theodoric. I just didn't read all the way down to the end of the article. It is extremely hard reading socialist pablum like the writer of this hateful article. I don't know if they just added the latest update between the time I first looked at the article and now, or if it was there and I just didn't read all the way down to it. The whole point of what I said was absolutely correct though. It was the president of the college who loudly protested the invitation from the republican club at the college. It was this protest that prompted the club to retract the invitation. Who wants to irritate the dean of the college unnecessarily?
salon.com writes:
I happen to love Fordham University. My daughter got a great education there. As president of the College Democrats, she worked well with College Republicans. I met a whole lot of them when they politely turned out the night she helped bring Howard Dean to campus; the next year, she got to moderate a question-and-answer session — to ensure fairness — when the College Republicans hosted Karl Rove. It felt to me like a lost era of civility and reason as I watched young people from the two parties get along up in the Bronx.
But now the Fordham College Republicans have invited Ann Coulter, who outdoes Karl Rove (barely, these days) in the department of divisiveness and meanness. I had a moment of regretting the mega-dollars I spent on Fordham — even though I know the clubs are free to invite whomever they like, within reason (although this tests reason). Then I saw Fordham President Father Joseph McShane’s terrific reply, which I’m printing in full.
Given the dramatic rightward shift of the Republican Party, I happen to believe that the path back to civility involves civil people not merely smiling and being civil but forcefully calling extremist Republicans out on their cruelty and extremism. Father McShane shows the way. He blasts Coulter’s message as hateful and needlessly provocative more heat than light and says her message is aimed squarely at the darker side of our nature.
McShane notes that Fordham has been blighted by ugly racial and homophobic incidents in the last few years, and he laments the lack of maturity shown by his young campus Republicans in inviting the provocateur Coulter. But he says he trusts the Fordham community to model the power of decency and reason to overcome hatred and prejudice. Let’s hope that happens. Personally, I hope Coulter reads McShane’s statement, withdraws from the engagement and spends some time reflecting on why she’s filled with so much hate. But I’m a dreamer.
Update: Tonight, the Fordham College Republicans have cancelled Coulter’s appearance.

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Message 37 of 274 (679006)
11-11-2012 10:01 PM
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11-11-2012 9:53 PM


Re: Coulter not banned / Fordham / Jesuits
The Jesuits are conservative when it suits their agenda and liberal when it suits their agenda, and their agenda is to overthrow the Protestant Reformation and bring the whole world under the Pope, also bring back the Inquisition to torture and murder everyone they call a "heretic." How they run a college depends on what's going to serve those interests best.
Here are some references, most of them available online.
European Institute for Protestant Studies
Book Online: The Jesuit Conspiracy by Jacopo Leone
Book Online: Secret History of the Jesuits, Edmond Paris
Book Online: Blaise Pascal Provincial Letters (Jesuits)
Book Online: Walter Walsh, Secret History of the Oxford Movement (1898)
Book: Papal Power, Henry T. Hudson
Book: Ecclesiastical Megalomania, John W Robbins
Book: Geese in their Hoods, Charles Spurgeon
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.

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Message 38 of 274 (679007)
11-11-2012 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by foreveryoung
11-11-2012 9:52 PM


foreveryoung writes:
Correction on my last reply to Theodoric: The article was from Salon.com.
Then I suspect that the article was this one:
Fordham head blasts Ann Coulter
The article quote Father McShane as saying:
quote:
Accordingly, the University will not block the College Republicans from hosting their speaker of choice on campus.
I guess that is the statement by McShane that gave you the idea that Fordham was banning Coulter.

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jar
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Message 39 of 274 (679008)
11-11-2012 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Faith
11-11-2012 10:01 PM


Re: Coulter not banned
I assume that you have evidence to support your assertions that they want to bring back the Inquisition to torture and murder everyone they call a "heretic."
If not, then it's just another example of an unsupported assertion from the CCoI.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 40 of 274 (679009)
11-11-2012 10:08 PM
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11-11-2012 10:04 PM


Re: Coulter not banned / Fordham / Jesuits
Here are some references, most of them available online.
European Institute for Protestant Studies
Book Online: The Jesuit Conspiracy by Jacopo Leone
Book Online: Secret History of the Jesuits, Edmond Paris
Book Online: Blaise Pascal Provincial Letters (Jesuits)
Book Online: Walter Walsh, Secret History of the Oxford Movement (1898)
Book: Papal Power, Henry T. Hudson
Book: Ecclesiastical Megalomania, John W Robbins
Book: Geese in their Hoods, Charles Spurgeon
Perhaps I can locate some good quotes for you later. Maybe even get the links to the above.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.

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Message 41 of 274 (679010)
11-11-2012 10:08 PM
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11-11-2012 10:04 PM


Re: Coulter not banned
Isn't is obvious? They're papists and that's what all papists want to do.
Q.E.D.

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foreveryoung
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Message 42 of 274 (679011)
11-11-2012 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Theodoric
11-11-2012 9:56 PM


theodoric writes:
So that would be a no. No is much easier to type so you should have just gone with that.
Here you go. You could have done this yourself.
From an article entitled: "A Progressive Surge" released on November 6, 2012
The Nation Magazine writes:
It’s worth remembering, before Mitt Romney settles into a comfortable 1 percent retirement from politics, that his victory would have imperiled the security of all but those insulated by extreme wealth from concerns like being able to find safe, warm housing in the wake of a hurricane.
Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

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nwr
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Message 43 of 274 (679012)
11-11-2012 10:09 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by foreveryoung
11-11-2012 10:00 PM


foreveryoung writes:
I was right Theodoric.
Yes, indeed -- very far to the radical right.
foreveryoung writes:
It is extremely hard reading socialist pablum like the writer of this hateful article.
You need to break out of that protective fundamentalist bubble, and learn how to actually read.
What you quoted above was said by a journalist, not by Fordham. If you read further down, you can find what Fordham said. Or just look at the snippet that I quoted in Message 38.

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Message 44 of 274 (679013)
11-11-2012 10:09 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by foreveryoung
11-11-2012 10:00 PM


Here is the article in question. I was right Theodoric.
How were you right? you claimed that Fordham banned Coulter from speaking there:
It isn't any wonder then when colleges like Fordham University ban Coulter from speaking at their campuses.
It is quite clear from the article that she was not banned.

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Theodoric
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Message 45 of 274 (679014)
11-11-2012 10:11 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by foreveryoung
11-11-2012 9:48 PM


Re: Coulter not banned
Jesuits are very liberal people.
Again just another empty assertion that you will provide no evidence for. Chock up Catholicism as another subject you know nothing about.
Anything that is right of pure marxism is conservative in your eyes it appears.
As I said before a nice introductory course in PoliSci will do you wonders.
All I did was summarize my understanding of it.
Your comprehension skills are atrocious. No where does the article, or any article, state that she was banned. Maybe you should about why the group decided to rescind the invite.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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