States petition for secession

Hi Tempe 12ft Chicken Let Texas go: it would be no great loss, and then we can let all the other people move to the new nation of Texas in exchange for all those who would like to move out..

1. Texas is a net taker of federal funds, so this would improve the budget and the economy.
2. Texas electoral votes (reliable "red" state with 38 votes) would be removed from future election calculations, thus letting the rest of the country to be more liberal
3. Texas exerts an out of proportion amount of effect on classroom text books, watering down science, so we could be freed of this effect.
4. This would reduce the senate GOP by two, making it 53 dems, 43 gops, 2 independents (and 43/98 = 43% ...)
5. This would reduce the representative GOP by 22, dems by 10, for net reduction of 12

Overall a benefit for the rest of us.Enjoy.

Hi Tempe 12ft Chicken Seeing as they have virtually identical wording and phrasing, I suspect an organized movement (like ALEC) of being behind this, rather that citizen uprising ...Enjoy.

It looks like the Texas petition has 123,642 signatures ...The White House... and it looks like ~1/2 are from outside Texas.Enjoy.

Hi tesla, OR it could offer an alternative to those who are dissatisfied with the federal government: move to Texas. They have lots of room and it could provide sufficient boost to their economy to pay the US for the federal assets that they would need to buy\reimburse (a process that would cool the heels of copycat states).It could be done as an experiment,Enjoy

Hi Coragyps, So you could sell your property (with a lot of potential new buyers) and move to a more reasonable state. The question is where would you most like to live?Personally I don't see any great attachment to a piece of land, but that may be due to my moving so much.Enjoy.

Hi jar, No state is homogeneous, as far as I know, but it sure seems that the evidence of your legislature, federal reps, recent governors and presidential candidates all point to being ill informed on reality.It may actually improve your sanity to move away from such influences. I know I was happier away from Mississippi and evangelical western Michigan ... Enjoy.

And? Why?Why should the federal government always be lumbered by restrictionists preventing progress?Enjoy.

We could have Virtual States, where people choose their particular options.You could carry a red card that states you are a member of the religious conservative virtual state, thus exempting you from any and all social programs of the federal and state governments, your tax dollars do not support them and you get no benefits from them.I could carry a blue card that states I am a member of the progressive liberal virtual state, thus exempting me from any reactionary programs of the federal and state governments, my tax dollars do not support them and I get no benefits from them.At income tax time we tic off which programs we want to fund and which we do not want to fund.I get universal health care, expanded social security and minimal military spendingYou get no healthcare or social security and support military spendingEnjoy

If they are redcarders, but not if they are bluecarders (and not in a redcard church). If it is a redcard workplace. How so? It's not a government so much as it is an association, like Boy Scouts. So there would be no need for redcarders to draw on bluecarders?Enjoy

Of course the ultimate initiation of this scheme would involve virtual reality equipment. Every day you get up and put on your goggles, and you see the world according to your version of reality. You don't see blue people, don't interact with them, just live in a virtual red world, just as I would not see red people, wouldn't interact with them, just live in a virtual blue world ...Enjoy

But redcarders would be funding redcard association\private schools ...Enjoy

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You're saying that not being able to spew hatred is an infringement on your religious views, yes?So you want to use your religion as an excuse for your hate?What has a homosexual person done to harm you?Is this your church?Attention Required! | Cloudflare&Is their freedom infringed?EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : link

And the different between you and Phelps is what?Would you say that Phelps and followers are trying to impose their religious views on others? And you want to be able to brow-beat people with your bigoted parochial views. But it isn't hate ... it just appears that way to people with open minds, but it's really religious freedom of expression. It is your freedom to believe it, it is NOT your freedom to impose your views on anyone else --- because of THEIR religious freedom.Enjoy

Not if they voluntarily went to the church to hear the sermon.But when you tell homosexuals outside of your church group that it is sin when their religion does not - then you are trying to impose your views on them. And I see no difference between that and your preaching at homosexuals that they are living in sin. Nope. I'd want you to be told to stop trying to impose your bigotry on others, and I would expect that the people you were trying to impose your bigotry on to be quite verbose in expressing their views to you.Enjoy.