States petition for secession

And in this case what is the right that has been slightly infringed?I see the petitions as a pretty funny way of blowing off steam. The administration can dismiss the petitions fairly easily.

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A Texas Republican Party official was so distraught over President Obama’s reelection that he suggested the state secede from the rest of the nation and all of the terrible people who supported Obama’s reelection.

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Did the press put words in Morrison's mouth when they referred to 'terrible people'? Well no...

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Peter Morrison, treasurer of the Hardin County Republican Party, wrote in the newsletter he publishes that Obama’s reelection proved the nation is too big and encompasses too many divergent views to be controlled by the federal government. In a vitriolic screed labeling Democrats, baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists, Morrison laid out his reasoning for secession.

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Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government?, he continued. Let each go her own way in peace, sign a free trade agreement among the states and we can avoid this gut-wrenching spectacle every four years.

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To support his case, Morrison cited General Robert E. Lee and Confederate soldiers who refused to accept Union rule following the Civil War.

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Like the remainder of Lee’s army after Gettysburg, it is our duty to keep fighting to the bitter end, in hopes that Providence might shine upon our cause before it is too late, he wrote. We must contest every single inch of ground and delay the baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists at every opportunity. But in due time, the maggots will have eaten every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic, and therein lies our opportunity.

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Because despite our political differences, most of us understand that we people of different philosophical bents need each other. A conservative-liberal split of the current population simply doesn't leave two viable countries.Something less than 10 per cent of all scientists consider themselves to be conservative. I suspect that only a paltry few of even that number would want to live in a country full of wing-nuts who hate science.Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll | HuffPost Latest News

I know you think that. We've seen a good deal of the kinds of things you believe, and one more ridiculous notion is not a surprise.Why should people who disagree with you go anywhere? You are the one that cannot get along with scientists, Catholics, or liberals. Why don't you pack your stuff up on the Mayflower and leave? Just how many people do you expect want to live in a Puritan theocracy anyway?Liberals are everywhere. Even in states where liberals are in the minority, they constitute a large portion of those state's population and economy. Why should they all have to move and be deprived of their livelihoods and way of life because Faith does not like them?And people accuse liberals of hating America. Sheesh...

First of all, I am a Christian. I also married a Christian gal who I love dearly. I don't have problems with Christians per se.Second of all, you keep me in stitches, and I hope you stick around. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

I'd certainly agree with that.

Needing to be separated from liberals and Catholics is not getting along. Treated Catholics as the anti-Christ is not getting along. Stripping entire communities of people of all political power is not getting along.At least not under any conventional definition. Most likely far fewer than you could imagine. A constitution with a built in caste system of people with less rights than you have? That's certainly not a democracy.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

I think a more fair assessment is that Faith has not yet thought this through and has admitted as much. She is hesitating on stoning, but she isn't really familiar enough with the Bible to say whether or not she'd actually cast the first stone.Such conflicts are quite frequent among Christians who don't actually care all that much for Jesus teachings.

Don't play coy. Your proposed set up does not meet the definition of a republican form of government. You aim to preserve a theocracy by disallowing entire segments of people from participation in the making and implementation of policy.From a practical standpoint, there are enough aspects of your government that do not pass constitutional muster that your attempts to press it on either residents or Americans passing through your territory won't survive a challenge. But perhaps if you leave visitors alone, you might be able to survive in the way that Scientology has survived in that town in central Florida. Good luck.Edited by NoNukes, : Fix bad apostrophe

Did you see where I mention visitors? What's wrong with your head? And don't you think your group might have the occasional apostate? And as long as we're calling a spade a spade, isn't this entire exercise an inane, wing-nut fantasy on your part?As soon as you tell somebody they cannot do something that they want to do because they disagree with you about the interpretation of whatever you are using, then you have a potential challenge. In fact, if you try to stone someone or implement any kind of cruel/unusual punishment the state is not going to simply butt out because you are volunteers.You cannot secede from the US. You cannot effectively declare yourself independent of the Constitution while you're here. Not even the self governing Native American tribes can do that. Perhaps the answer is as simple as that.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

The Inquisition is long over. Catholics do not burn (present tense) anyone and have not for centuries.Who tortured, excommunicated, and executed people for witchcraft in Salem starting in about 1692? Wasn't it Calvinists? Why pretend that only Catholics have a history of using brutal force? Is the fact that the witches were hanged or buried alive under stones rather than burned any reason to feel superior to Catholics?

It's all despicable. But you have tried to claim that when people accuse Protestants of despicable deeds, that they must be confusing them with Catholics. Well that's nonsense. We can tar those Puritans you want to emulate with their own misdeeds.

Did one of us come to your house and take your guns?Look, you've already told us that you don't want a republican form of government and that it would be STUPID to grant minorities power in the goofy gubmint you want to implement. You intend to run roughshod all over the 1st and 8th amendments.Now you claim to be some kind of defender of the constitution you tell us that you cannot stand? Please...

Sure. And the red card entitles you to prevent your gay neighbors from getting married and allows you to discriminate against them in the work place. It allows you to prevent other red card holders from having abortions. It also allows you to use federal funds to violate the establishment clause. You can have the police pick up your neighbors for reading Playboy. Of course the police let the perps go if they show their blue cards.The red card also allows you to have all the guns you want, but you cannot draw them on blue card holders except in self defense in a proportionate response. No guns at all for blue card holders.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

It is currently prohibited to operate public schools using public funds in which your science curriculum is designed to advance religious teachings. I'm proposing that people like Faith would want their red card to allow them to avoid such a restriction. I don't believe such a proposal to be any more workable than was the silly gun law stuff. Well, if you want to be able to shoot intruders like Trayvon Martin or Yoshihiro Hattori without a bunch of liberals trying to prosecute you, then you could not agree with that sentiment.