States petition for secession

Indeed.

Yes, it seems to me pretty clear now that theocracy can't work at all in this fallen world. I'd love to find a way to get out from under what I consider to be the current intolerable governmental tyranny but apparently there is no way. Too bad but that's the way it is. Thanks for Lewis' quote, I don't remember it although I read so much of his stuff at one time I might actually have read it and forgotten it.

Of course, the problem with that is1) The poor starve
2) The middle class suffers greatly
3) The wealth gets put into the greatest 1%.. and there will be a much much greater disparity between the wealthy and the poor.YHOu know.. sort of what has been happening with the 'tax cuts to the rich'.

How about 50% on all earnings over $50,000.00 per year. The 50-50-50-50-50 tax and economic plan.

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Republicans and libertarians talk about having a simple flat tax system.

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Okay. Let's go further and combine the tax system with the benefit system to create one simple easy to administer plan:

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1. give every registered tax payer $50 per day (= $18,250.00 per year) and eliminate welfare, unemployment, social security and government pensions (including those of congress, etc). You can opt to collect this weekly, monthly or annually (at tax time).
2. tax 50% of all earnings (wages, interest, dividends, etc) over
3. $50k per year (ie you can earn up to a $86,500.00 annual salary before your net tax is greater than your net benefit)
4. share 50% of tax collected with the states, based on population.
5. mandatory retirement at 50.{abe: years of work? /abe}

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Fully fund medicare (A, B, C and D) for everyone. Let people buy "gap" insurance for what they want to cover in addition to the medicare coverage with a single payer no deductible plan.

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Eliminate minimum wage requirements (this is covered by the $50/day benefit).

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Eliminate welfare, social security, unemployment, food stamp, etc state and federal programs and management.

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All tax funds left over after budget go to reduce the national debt. Once the debt is eliminated the tax rate can be adjusted annually to match the budget requirements.

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Simple. Included. You mean not tax on money that was taken from other people by unfair pay rates and bank scams?Like the wallmart executives that make record "profit" while making their employees use foodstamps and medicaid (paid for by your taxes) because wallmart doesn't pay a fair (living) wage? Their money?Who do you think actually "makes" the money, ICANT -- the CEO or the people on the work floor building products?EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : wallmart

Ah, when you said flat tax, I assumed you meant everyone paid the same amount.So you think it's fair for a family of four making $30,000 to be taxed down to the poverty level while one making $1,000,000 has to scrape by on a mere $800,000? And you allow for the possibility that some people might get tax credits refunded to them, but not from tax money that came from other people. Where do you think that tax credit money is going to come from, taxing fish?And if you think the economy of the Cayman Islands is in any respect analogous to the economy of the U.S., you have problems far beyond the ability of anyone here to deal with.{AbE}Oh, by the way, have you done any calculations to determine whether a 20% tax rate would general sufficient revenues? If so, I'd love to see them.Edited by subbie, : As noted.

No, we keep trying to figure out just what you are trying to say. As you persist in refusing, we have to start asking, "Do you mean this?" No answer. "OK, do you mean this?" Again no answer or even more confused nonsense.Think about what you want to say and then say it clearly and we won't have to try to guess. Yet again, you're the one creating this mess, so don't complain to me about it but rather clean it up!One common piece of advice is to not blame on malice that which could be due to sheer stupidity. But certainly there is a limit to how stupid and utterly clueless a person could be. And you have repeatedly expressed malice and unreasoning hatred for everybody who don't think and believe in exactly the same way as you do. So turn off the hatred and try to turn on your brain. You'll be amazed at the difference that will make.

Hi Dr, I would rather argue for a flat consumption tax, which is what is used in the Caymans except for luxury items. Although everyone who buys those luxury items pay the same the percentage is just greater.Even drug dealers, prostitutes, and gamblers pay their fair share on the underground money they make.God Bless,

Hi ramoss, I have never worked for a company that was spending more money than the took in. And I have never seen a company continue to exist if they just broke even.Every company that I have ever worked for made a profit that way I could get paid along with all the other workers on Friday.God Bless,

Hi RAZD, There are a lot of people that would love to just pay 50% of what they earn in taxes each year.Many are now paying 63% of their income in taxes.If you live in California and make 40 million dollars this year you will pay a total of $25,000,000 million in taxes.What percent of what a person earns do you think they ought to be able to keep? Everybody that actually works and recieves a pay check for that work.There are too many people who half works and still receives a full pay check.God Bless,

And, what does that comment have to do with what I said?? Absolutely nothing.

Government is not a business. The purpose of government is not to make a profit.

Bullshit.Show your evidence for this assertion.

So if not 63%, what rate does Phil Mickelson pay in California?

less than 53%

Why did he claim nearly 63%, and why are he and a number of other professional athletes leaving?