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Dawn Bertot Member (Idle past 317 days) Posts: 3571 Joined:
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DA writes
Thanks for posting this DA, (my ole arch nemesis) that is a beautiful and neutral quote that kinda bridges the gap between the opposing forces here at this website When you have defended the truth together and read the posts of a brother like Buz, you really do feel like family with him, even if i didnt know him personally Disagreement between brothers (and I can only remember a few with him) is insignificant even when he was alive. I enjoyed his writings as much as Jaywill and ICANT I am sure i will see and even know him in eternity. I cant wait to sit in a place there and discuss why he believed certain things that he did. Wow, he was always busy here at your forum. I like to think that he always had those visitors to the forum under consideration when he was defending the truth Like brother Guy N Woods use to say, when speaking of death and eternity. "Soon for some, not long for any" Buy Buzz, Ill see you at home D Bertot
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Dr Adequate Member  Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
And now that he's gone, I guess no-one will ever know why he called himself Buzsaw and spelled it with just one z and not two. I wanted to ask him, but it was never the right time.
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Theodoric Member  Posts: 5908 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.4 |
I remember him saying his name showed how he was going to take a Buzsaw to evolutionists and their ideas. Kind of cut us down to size I guess. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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GDR Member  Posts: 4772 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
I poked around on the net and couldn't find an obit for Ivan aka Buz. Does anyone have a link to one?
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Tempe 12ft Chicken Member (Idle past 152 days)  Posts: 436 From: Tempe, Az. Joined:
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He was a great example of a creationist that I would have loved to have a conversation with. I am sure that he will be missed and I know that I, for one, am sad that I never had a chance to debate with him before his passing. RIP Buzsaw/Ivan The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. -Richard Dawkins Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. -Issac Asimov If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a persons body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. -Neil Degrasse Tyson What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. -Robin Williams-
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nwr Member  Posts: 5584 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined:
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Try this one. (found via google) Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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GDR Member Posts: 4772 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Thanks nwr
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vimesey Member  Posts: 927 From: Birmingham, England Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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I join with everyone else in mourning his passing, and expressing my condolences to his family and loved ones. Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 2189 days)  Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined:
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This is from a PM between me and Buz.... I think it speaks volumes about him. Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' ― Isaac Asimov "You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them" - Ray Bradbury
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Minnemooseus Member  Posts: 3696 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: |
The link at the top with get you to the original source topic. Location of above at the "Your First Ever EVC Post" topic. Moose Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Testing editing. Edited by Minnemooseus, : Source link at bottom. Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Tony650 Member (Idle past 2076 days) Posts: 450 From: Australia Joined:
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Forgive me if I seem a bit out of the loop - I only recently started visiting the forum again and I don't know the circumstances of Mike's leaving; I just noticed that he doesn't seem to be around any more. At any rate, I don't mean to derail things but I thought I should mention this in case anyone still has contact with him. As for Buzsaw... Ouch! That... hit me kind of hard. It's amazing how attached you can become to someone you've never even met - how a poster who is no more to you than words on a screen can eventually feel like a personal friend. Though, the nature of the forum can make this familiarity oddly one-sided. Given my sporadic posting history, I wouldn't imagine that Buz ever had any feelings about me one way or the other. Even back when I did post a little, I doubt that I merited much of a blip on his radar. As such, he never knew me. He may have been vaguely aware of my presence on the forum, but just barely I would think. Buz, on the other hand, was one of the long-term contributors, with an active posting history lasting many years. And I go way back as a reader of the forum - long before I actually joined. So, given the combination of those two things, I feel like I came to know him pretty well. And it looks like I'm not alone. I can't help but notice the other rare posters responding to this thread. People like myself who don't post very often, but were moved to break their silence on this occasion. I think the fact that this news temporarily compelled the "mostly lurkers" amongst us out of our introversion speaks volumes about the impact Buz had. Anyway, there isn't much I can say for myself which wouldn't just be repeating everybody else's words. Despite the fact that I disagreed with Buz on almost everything, I always thought he was a genuinely nice guy. I'm pretty sure I only directly bumped into him once on the forum but it was a brief and pleasant experience. We shared a quick joke, complete with smiley faces, and went on our way. It's possible that our paths did cross elsewhere but, for whatever reason, that's the encounter I remember. Despite our lack of association, I grew to know Buz through his posts. He could be frustrating... he could be endearing... he could be anything in between. But no matter which he was, he was always sincere. Whatever our differences, I've always felt that his heart was in the right place and the motivation behind his words was noble. My condolences to his family and friends. Know that this place will never be quite the same without him. Rest well, old friend. You've earned your peace. Farewell, Buz. Ferret brain activity increased just 20 percent when looking at Keanu Reeves compared to looking at darkness, the study found.
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Straggler Member  Posts: 10284 From: London England Joined: Member Rating: 3.5
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I've just seen this. Very very sad to hear Buz has passed away. I inevitably had my EvC run-ins with Buz but always enjoyed them and was kinda fond of the old fella. He will be missed here.
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 346 days)  Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined:
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Thanks for thinking of him. Edited by AdminAsgara, : No reason given.
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mike the wiz Member  Posts: 4628 From: u.k Joined:
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Buz was a Jedi-Knight. A Yoda. He did not get ruffled by arguments or harsh opinions, in this respect you must now realise that your Father can never be turned to the dark side. (I am of course, speaking tongue-in-cheek, for those who never did understand that 80% of mike is humour. Buz wouldn't mind, after all, he was irrefutable!!  All we bible-bashers are, ultimately!!)Life is complicated, Ndugu. Buz was not a giant of intellectualism, but that does not matter at all, for the reality of the Creation is not dependent upon it's creatures' arguments. All that matters with the Lord, is faithfulness. As the scripture has said, His thoughts are higher than our thoughts. I was going to say more and perhaps in the past I would have but I have already spoken to Buz's wife and we know what matters so I don't need to speak it here. (I only came here for this comment, as requested by an EvC Admin)-- That particular admin who contacted me, it always struck me that that person treated Buzsaw with kindness, and neutrality/impartiality.
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