But if you agree with Tangle that everything possibly known and experienced originate with the written characters in the book you can throw the characters away with the book.
I'm thinking maybe what Tangle was referring to was that there is only the book. There is no independent confirmation that any of the myths (or characters, outside historical name-dropping) ever existed as presented.
But this dichotomy of book from character(s) is false. The whole thing is the major propaganda tool of the abrahamics and their evil philosophies, evil morals and evil actions. The presentation of fantasy as reality is bad enough but religion's insistence they be obeyed under penalty of torture and death (in both this life and the fictitious next) is abhorrent to every humanist worthy of the name.
So throwing the tomb in the trash, characters and all, is an excellent way to keep its poison from infecting more innocent minds.
If you despise Jesus ...
The characters mean nothing. They are but actors on stage reading a script written by the priests. The use of these myths, however, is what I despise. Your entire religion, indeed all religions, are formed and operated to accumulate wealth, influence, power for the priests and the brutal warlords they serve.
Religion has taken the worst of human thought and action and elevated it to the level of a righteous movement. Human life means nothing and is expendable to the greater glory of their god and their church's power over the masses.
This is despicable.
Religion needs to end.
You need an argument against a Higher Power in general.
An argument against a rainbow-striped unicorn? Really, Phat?
I don't mean to pry, cept actually I do, but I can't help wondering how this is getting so bad. This stuff is controllable with meds. Do you not take any?
These guys want you to go back to the Endocrinologist. You've had this problem quite some time. You've been there and left? No follow up? By them or you?
Too much reveal but fuck it. I'm pre-diabetic. A1C is 5.6. I have kept it controlled with diet, some poor attempts at exercise and no ... no meds. My drugs are for heart issues because, yes I eat pretty healthy as far as blood-sugar control stuff but it's the how much I eat that gets MY ass. That and salt. Do you know how many salt shakers I don't have anymore? All of them!
What I know is that if I cannot keep this pre-diabetic thing under control I will be on even more drugs. If my A1C is this close to requiring a drug protocol then you are waaay over that limit.
Don't answer but do you have a regular doctor? Are you on drugs? Why the hell not?!
Have you run away to one of them "God will heal me cults"? Come home, Phat.
You really are that much a fucking idiot? There is so much more to diabetes control than keeping candy out of your face. Diabetes can be a severely debilitating disease requiring expert medical attention to forestall death.
We have seen some stupid shit in these pages and this is right up there with the worst.
Like believing a gun loaded with blanks can't hurt you if you point it up against your head and pulled the trigger. Like coaxing a child to drink that bottle of bleach. Dozens of harmful and deadly covid crap cures.
This is an irresponsible, dangerously ignorant claim put forward by a fool.
LNA should be ashamed for spreading dangerous, not just misinformation, but fatally dangerous advice on a par with intent to cause deliberate harm.
Anti-vax stupidity in the diabetes crowd.
LNA's stance is fatally dangerous, not just for Phat but for any others lacking an understanding of the disease itself.
Sanction is called for. This type of dangerously fatal advice, spoken out of ignorance or not, should have no place in this forum.
It has been more than a few day since this sub-thread started. Plenty of time to research the subject to get a basic understanding of the issues. You say you had an issues 5 years ago. You learned nothing from that experience and have now become the purveyor of bad, dangerous, misinformation.
Sugar spikes happen every time you ingest anything (usually). A spike means nothing. Even eating a gigantic thanksgiving meal that lasts for 3 days (given the usual amount of leftovers) will not introduce a diabetic problem in most people.
The diabetes concern is when the spikes are so high and often that they move the A1C to a higher basal level. Over 6 is concerning. Over 10 is dangerous and just stopping eating is not the answer.
The long term basal level (A1C) has to come down. If diet and exercise are not effective then there are two scenarios to consider. Either the person is not maintaining their program or there are metabolic issues that require medical intervention. Starvation is a stupid and dangerous treatment.
Again, idiot, just stopping consumption is not a treatment and can itself cause a whole host other issues dangerous to those with sever diabetes issues already.
Under certain circumstances a glucose molecule will adhere to the cell wall of an erythrocyte (red blood cell). Erythrocytes are made in the bone marrow and, on average, last 3 months before they are dissolved (eaten) by macrophages (white blood cells). When you draw blood for an A1C test you get the full mix of new cells with no sugars attached to old cells pot marked with glucose. The total glucose volume as a percent of total volume is the A1C reading. This gives a base level of blood sugar over a long period, which is where the danger lies.
Doctors used to require NPO after midnight. Nothing to eat or drink after midnight before the test. They don’t do this anymore because the spike of sugars that results is not even noticeable on the test.
Sugar spikes mean nothing. You do not know what the hell you are talking about. Worse, you haven’t bothered to educated yourself on the issue.