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Theodoric
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Message 442 of 523 (920299)
09-23-2024 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 439 by Phat
09-23-2024 2:32 PM


Re: Political Ideologies Expressed
There has been shoplifting and crime since beginning of humanity. Conservatives seem to have no problem with violent crime.
Why are liberals responsible for shoplifting? Give us actual data and arguments not anecdotal bullshit or your feelings.
Let's see what the FBI says.
Oh gee look at that, they released the 2023 crime statistics today> Hmm, larceny(theft) is down 4.4%.
Everyone wants what they once had and what they perceive that others have that they don't.
I don't. My friends don't. Tell me who these "everyone" are. Are you projecting again?
[qs]Some people simply don't care about the harm that they cause to others as they satiate their needs and wants.[/qs
This is different from any other time in history, how?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 443 of 523 (920300)
09-23-2024 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 441 by Phat
09-23-2024 2:57 PM


Re: Political Ideologies Expressed
Why would a retired Navy Seal be an expert on the origins of 'the war on terror"? Jack Carr has no experience in geopolitics or teaching.
Not everyone is trying to profit off of us.
Then why is he trying to push listeners to his news letter and from there to his "private" newsletter. He is trying to sell you something.
The point is this guy is not an expert on anything. Except maybe Canadian mining stocks.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 446 of 523 (920303)
09-24-2024 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 439 by Phat
09-23-2024 2:32 PM


Shoplifting an epidemic? What does the data say?
The facts, as always, don't support your bullshit.
Shrink does not equal shoplifting. In one of my careers, I was in retail management. I was the General Manager of a small convenience store chain in NC and I was District Manager for a software chain. We always kept on eye open for shoplifting. The major part of our shrink was always from paperwork errors and employee theft.
My little brother is an asset protection manager for a large hardware chain. His time is best spent checking paperwork and combatting employee theft. They do have shoplifting and it is a problem. Also, the stealing of high-ticket items like a DeWalt power tool is very high profile. But at the end of the day paperwork errors and employee theft account for more shrink.
America’s stores are winning the war on shoplifting
The US shoplifting scourge is a lot of hype with little evidence

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 448 of 523 (920305)
09-24-2024 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 447 by Taq
09-24-2024 3:53 PM


Re: Shoplifting an epidemic? What does the data say?
Not true.
It is a state wide law. Prop 47, passed by a majority of voters in 2014.
quote:
Prop 47, which became a law in 2014, reclassifies certain theft and drug possession offenses from felonies to misdemeanors. Shoplifting offenses of property valued under $950 are punishable by up to six months in county jail....
It should also be noted that California is not the only state that has raised the bar for felony convictions. Since 2000, at least 37 states have enacted laws that raised the threshold for what constitutes felony theft. In 2017, Pew Charitable Trusts examined how these laws impacted the crime rate and found that "raising the felony theft threshold has no impact on overall property crime or larceny rates.
Did Prop 47 Legalize Theft Under $950 in California? | Snopes.com

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 451 of 523 (920308)
09-24-2024 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 450 by Taq
09-24-2024 5:25 PM


Re: Shoplifting an epidemic? What does the data say?
If one sees an increase in theft but no strict punishment then it can snowball, especially when combined with higher rates of homelessness.
Do you have real world examples? Where is theft not prosecuted?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Joined: 08-15-2005


Message 457 of 523 (920314)
09-26-2024 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 456 by Phat
09-26-2024 10:26 AM


Re: Shoplifting an epidemic? What does the data say?
Source or is all you have anecdotal evidence?
Im sure the bleeding hearts will ask for decriminalization of shoplifting and some sort of government program to bring them help.
Show an example of this. Oh yeah, fuck you.
As to your data that indicates a preponderance of employee theft, I don't see it as big as you claim.
Lie? Strawman? Inability to understand basic argument and data?
I never made such a claim and data I presented does not make such a claim.
What was said is that employee theft and jnternal operations issues are responsible for the preponderance of shrink. According to the National Retail Federation in 2022 that accounted for 63% of shrink. 36% of shrink was from outside. Shoplifting is only a portion of that.
I am not denying there is shoplifting. I am not denying there are gangs of shoplifters. I do not deny that some states and areas need to do more. I am questioning your figures and your vilification of whole groups of people based upon your prejudices and racism. I am questioning your claim that it is some sort of progressive plot.
You are not allowed to make up your own facts. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts.
Here are the facts and data.
7 reasons why everyone’s confused about shrink and theft | Retail Dive

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 459 of 523 (920316)
09-26-2024 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 455 by Phat
09-26-2024 10:12 AM


Re: The Jay Martin Thing
So explain how gold is going to be used to settle accounts internationally. Explain how gold is going to be used to back this fantastical BRICS currency.
BRICS actually has 7 members and have extended invites to 7 more countries. Argentina has formally turned down that invite.
Diana Mondino confirm? que la Argentina no ingresar? a los BRICS - El Cronista
Also, India and Brazil have been reaching out to the west. Here are examples.
OECD takes first step in accession discussions with Argentina, Brazil, Bulgaria, Croatia, Peru and Romania | OECD
https://www.nbcnews.com/...ukraine-ally-russia-wa-rcna167704

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 462 of 523 (920319)
09-27-2024 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 461 by Phat
09-27-2024 9:37 AM


Re: Keeping It Personal
If I agree with a particular point made by someone else what am I supposed to do? Plagarize them? They usually state the (obvious) point better than I could.
If you can't put it in your own words, then you don't understand it. Just because you think something sounds good doesn't mean you understand it.
You don't know how often I make what I think to be a decent post only to have it exacerbated by the Peanut Gallery.
That should speak volumes to you. It shows you just aren't that smart.
given belief had any intrinsic validity
What do you mean by this? Examples? What kind of "given belief had any intrinsic validity", would a professor of criminology have that could make a rational response irrelevant?
Do you think irrationality is preferable to rationality?
If you are not going to actually address this post, please do not bother responding.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 464 of 523 (920321)
09-27-2024 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 461 by Phat
09-27-2024 9:37 AM


Re: Keeping It Personal
Oh yeah. You shouldn't use big words if you don't know what they mean.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 469 of 523 (920326)
09-27-2024 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 468 by Percy
09-27-2024 7:14 PM


Re: Keeping It Personal
peanut gallery
Another term that he has no idea what it means.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 474 of 523 (920331)
09-29-2024 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 472 by Phat
09-29-2024 8:45 AM


Re: Keeping It Personal
For once, maybe you should try presenting evidence and explaining why you think it is evidence.
Actually, start small. Learn what evidence is.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 475 of 523 (920332)
09-29-2024 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 473 by Phat
09-29-2024 9:28 AM


Re: Keeping It Personal
Intuition is bullshit. Do you see anyone else here arguing about their intuition?
I, and I gather most people here, have no respect for anyone's intuition.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 485 of 523 (920345)
10-01-2024 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 484 by dwise1
10-01-2024 2:40 AM


Re: Keeping It Personal
I had 401K's when I worked that we rolled over to IRA's. My wife has a 403B (the non-profit version of a 401K). We are lucky and can max that out every year.
The 403B is invested in a fund that the investment company has tied to her retirement date. They do all the work.
My IRA's and the couple small IRA's I inherited from my father are in funds that our financial advisor recommends. We pay Edward Jones Investments a fee to handle our investments. I have never regretted that fee. When the markets go up, we tend to do better than the average. When the market goes down, we tend to do better than average. We are never going to hit a home run. We never swing for the fence. We have a plan. We stick to the plan.
I have a friend my age, 62, who has had a good paying gov't job since he was 24. After the Reagan PATCO episode(Reagan fired striking air traffic controllers) he was one of the newly hired replacements. It was a great gig. He was stationed in Duluth, MN. Low stress, lots of down time. He had great Fed benefits and made really good money. When he retired at 55(he was required to retire), he was making $120k/year, while actually working about 20 hours a week. A couple other friends who were also air traffic controllers retired quite comfortably.
This guy not so much. Divorced three times. Bankruptcy twice. He borrowed against his retirement numerous times. He was going to buy a bar once so borrowed $40k from his retirement. The deal fell through, but he just spent the $40k. For all the money he went through he had nothing to show for it.
20 years or so ago, he was talking about how well he was doing with his Etrade account. Then he just stopped talking about it.
About 12 years ago he aske me if my financial advisor had advised me to get out of equities, because there was going to be "triple witching event"(he did not really understand what that meant and they happen every quarter) and the market was going to plummet.
He was right. The market went down 400 points that Friday. By Tuesday it was all back and by the need of the week the market was up 200 or so. He missed out on all that gain.
I don't see him much anymore. He seems to still be chasing the big return. He does ok. He lives off his pension and social security but delivers for Walmart part time. So, there is a need for income.
Moral of story. Invest. Let the pros handle it. Keep your hands off of it.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 488 of 523 (920348)
10-01-2024 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 486 by dwise1
10-01-2024 10:47 AM


Re: Keeping It Personal
Oh, he lost nothing in his divorces. His last divorce his ex was lucky because she got out before she found out about all of his debts. We call him a low rent gold digger.
His first marriage was when we were in college. Her grandparents owned a lot of land and had a beautiful home. Her parents were straight middle class. Once he realized that there was no money coming to her, he ran away. He married his 2nd wife because he thought she was loaded because her ex-husbands family owned a fairly big company in the area. Her kids from the first marriage would do fine but she wasn't getting anything more. She divorced him when she realized he was extremely lazy.
He married the last one because she also was recently divorced and had a chunk of money from selling the marital property. It was less than 100K. In the divorce she got a small part of his 401K.
His marriages were like his investing.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 489 of 523 (920354)
10-02-2024 9:44 AM


Right wing grift continues
Laura Ingraham of Faux is getting in on the rightwing fearmongering grift.
quote:
It is certainly amusing that in exchange for money, Ingraham is warning her audience both that former President Donald Trump may lose the 2024 presidential election and that even if he wins, his economic performance will prove so poor that they need to buy gold and silver as a hedge.
But Ingraham’s paid missive both defies what economists and other experts say about the relative merits of the plans put forward by Vice President Kamala Harris and Trump, and provides a stark example of how right-wing pundits enrich themselves on the backs of their followers.
Laura Ingraham Warns Of Economic 'Disaster' To Promote Her Gold Grift - National Memo
Is she an expert? What does your intuition say? Forget that last question. No one cares

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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