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Phat
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Message 16 of 19 (880000)
07-27-2020 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by coffee_addict
04-24-2020 7:58 PM


Re: Phats Online Diary Unplugged
Im finally disciplined enough to make another run at fat adaptation. This time it is primarily for spiritual reasons and health reasons. My legs are swollen and the doctor tells me to go low Carb...but it isn't easy.

Day one was Sunday. The experts say that it will take me up to 4 days of low Carb(20 to 40 grams of carb/sugar maximum daily) to achieve fat adaptation and up to 3-6 weeks to achieve full Ketogenic adaptation. I'm determined to the point of obsession...I need to regain control of my health. Once I switch back to burning fat mainly, I will balance my diet with vegetables, less meat and more nuts. Watch how nutty I get when my ketone fueled brain starts extrapolating spirituality.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 17 of 19 (880023)
07-28-2020 7:22 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by coffee_addict
04-24-2020 9:28 AM


Re: Health progress?
Hi Lammy! Yes I can say that progress is slow but is again happening. Note that it took over 3 months from when you made this post Message 11 before you are now hearing back from me. I am on Day#3 of my Lo-Carb/Intermittent Fasting plan, and am noticing some positive change. Here is a video that I made 2 weeks ago when I just read that book, 3 Theories Of Everything by Ellis Potter.
Note several things.
1) I am scatterbrained and, though apparently trying to "be intellectual" am having dissociative rambling thoughts. The typical Hi Carb diet which I am on a majority of my life is unhealthy and in fact destructive to me. Also note how messed up my apartment is behind me. My legs were swollen, my energy was being propped up by caffeine and the sugar-based diet that was wrecking my health.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 18 of 19 (886797)
06-08-2021 10:02 AM


The Pandemic Accelerated My Health Problems
Percy, addressing my forum behavior writes:

You're descending into irrationalism. I sense something going on in your life, no way to know if it's just your own thinking or if you've experienced some event. You've never had the ability to connect ideas to the real world, but now you seem to have dropped into irrationalism.

In 2020, I basically stopped exercising, no longer tried to correct my health, and wore masks and gloves every day... thank God I was still working. In early 2021, I began getting blisters on my legs. I was sent to the hospital outpatient services...Porter Adventist Wound Care

Again...thank God for health insurance. Thats all I have to say. I am in a fight with twenty years of progressive diabetes. Perhaps this all contributes to my rants and attitudes here at EvC.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Percy
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Message 19 of 19 (886813)
06-09-2021 7:46 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Phat
06-08-2021 10:02 AM


Re: The Pandemic Accelerated My Health Problems
The diet you described in Message 16 has some good aspects, like decreasing your carbohydrate intake, hopefully with emphasis on eliiminating simple carbohydrates, but it sounds like one of the variants of a keto diet, which are all fad diets. You're looking for a magic bullet. There isn't one. All diet programs are failures.

The long term success rate of diets in the general population is 10-20%. Under most circumstances such a low success rate would be the death knell and people would abandon them in droves, but many Americans are desperate to lose weight, and so the diet industry has been with us for a long time and will continue to be so, regularly introducing new appealingly packaged diet programs accompanied by food products you can order online or even find in your grocery store.

Terms like fat adaptation and achieving ketosis to burn fat is terminology used by diet quacks to sound plausible and scientific. If you're not seeing an MD then you're seeing a quack, though even some MD's are quacks - Trump's doctor from before his election was a quack. The White House physician Ronny Jackson adopted some quacky qualities over time, perhaps influenced by his increasing use of alcohol and pills.

The best diet advice is from Michal Pollan: "Eat food, not too much, mostly plants." Inherent in his advice is to avoid processed foods (that means avoid most aisles in the grocery store).

Your issues sound persistent and of longstanding. I think Metformin would be inadequate for you, though it's probably worth a try if you haven't tried it already. When metformin doesn't work then the next thing to consider is semaglutide. You would take it under the care of a medical specialist, usually a specialist in diabetes. A responsible MD will prefer to use it with those already eating right and getting regular exercise because semaglutide is only an assist (a powerful one) for achieving a healthy weight and better numbers on the standard blood panel. It cannot by itself make metabolic syndrome or diabetes go away. Semaglutide is approved by the FDA for treatment of diabetes, and from what you say you're a valid candidate for it, but if not you need to find an MD willing to go off-label and prescribe semaglutide for weight loss. The FDA is on the cusp of approving a higher dosage version of semaglutide for weight loss, if they haven't already. Cost is around $800/month, you'll need your insurance.

--Percy


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