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ringo Member (Idle past 667 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
You're still over-thinking. I just used a common expression.
Let's speculate a minute. Phat writes:
I do like Waylon Jennings. And songs - like jokes - work best when you don't analyze them to death.
You may not like Waylon Jennings.... Phat writes:
I would have looked up the meaning of working without a net. Otherwise, which google would you have used?"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Phat Member Posts: 18650 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
I would have looked up the meaning of working without a net. I did. I saw it right away. My brain likes to be creative and freewheeling....if you call it overthinking, I suppose I can accept that, but whats wrong with thinking? Better too much than not enough"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18650 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
Tangle writes: Are you seriously suggesting that the authors made up the characters from scratch? I don't believe that for even a minute. At worst, they used poetic license to exaggerate the real character whom they were describing but to be honest, I don't even believe that! Because the authors of the myth made it that way."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Tangle Member Posts: 9581 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
Phat writes: Are you seriously suggesting that the authors made up the characters from scratch? No. There were plenty of real protagonists, ancient stories and rumours around to create a mythology without having to invent one. Making up an entire mythology from scratch was not necessary and isn't what happened. The Jesus myth evolved from Old Testament stories. The stories then evolved through to New Testament into the Qur'an. (And arguably also into the Book of Mormon.) All man made.
At worst, they used poetic license to exaggerate the real character whom they were describing but to be honest, Yup. Though more than poetic.
I don't even believe that! We all know what you believe Phat.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Phat Member Posts: 18650 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
And we all know what you believe. Your explanation is utter bullshit. Sorry, but I see no more substance in your explanation than you do in my beliefs. Im calling you out. What so-called expert or group of experts rationally concluded what you present? Why should their conclusion be taken seriously? I want names and evidence.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18650 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
And if you bring up Richard Carrier, I've already seen the clever demons in him. He is a weasel. I'll need more than simply a mythicist or two
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You |
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Phat Member Posts: 18650 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
ringo writes: Oh? What about this song?
I do like Waylon Jennings.Lyrics writes: In my own way I'm a believerIn my own way right or wrong I don't talk too much about it It's something I keep working on I don't have too much to build on My faith has never been that strong There's a man in that old buildingHe's a holy man, they say He keeps talking about tomorrow While I keep struggling with today He preaches hell, fire and brimstone And heaven seems so far away I do believe in a higher powerOne that loves us one and all Not someone to solve our problems Or to catch me when I fall He gave us all a mind to think with And to know what's right or wrong He is that inner spirit That keeps us strong In my own way I'm a believerBut not in voices I can't hear I believe in a loving father One I never have to fear That I should live life at it's fullest Just as long as I am here
I can find God in nearly everything and everyone. Try that with a spaghetti monster or a bigfoot. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Edited by Phat, : No reason given. "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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ringo Member (Idle past 667 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Not necessarily. Take reading the Bible, for example. You're not content to read it and understand what it says. You try to think it into saying what you want it to say. ... whats wrong with thinking? Better too much than not enough"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 667 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
*shrug* J.R.R. Tolkien did it. So do a lot of scifi and fantasy writers. Are you seriously suggesting that the authors made up the characters from scratch?"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 667 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
I can find The Flintstones in nearly everything and everyone. I can find God in nearly everything and everyone."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Phat Member Posts: 18650 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
I can find The Flintstones in nearly everything and everyone. Find the Flintstones in a headline of your choice from today's paper."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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ringo Member (Idle past 667 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
From the Leader-Post:
Find the Flintstones in a headline of your choice from today's paper.quote:Season 6, Episode 5 - Fred invests his tax refund in a circus. "I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Tangle Member Posts: 9581 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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Phat writes:
You've proved over and over that you really don't.
And we all know what you believe. Your explanation is utter bullshit. Sorry, but I see no more substance in your explanation than you do in my beliefs. Im calling you out. What so-called expert or group of experts rationally concluded what you present? Why should their conclusion be taken seriously? I want names and evidence. Well there's a a group of people called Jews. They have a book called the Torah (That's the Old Testament to you Christians) which predicts the Messiah. The Jews are still waiting for him, they reckon that your Jesus is just one of the many failed prophets. So a thousand years after the Jewish oral traditions and about 500 years after something got written we have a bunch of Jews trying to make Jesus into the Messiah of the book. Unfortunately, he failed - as was recorded in your book. Having failed, people still needed a Messiah and hence Mohammed was invented. They recognise Jesus as a a prophet but not a god. Mormonism, same god different day. Jesus is the head of their religion but believe that the Christians got the story thereafter wrong. So Smith wrote his own, very different version. guided by god (of course). That's the synopsis. They're all man made and they're all of their time. You just believe one version of one of the many myths in the same tradition. As for references, just read the Wikis and follow the sources from there.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Phat Member Posts: 18650 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3
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Today is my birthday. My family is miles away so I am celebrating by myself...before work...on what otherwise would be just another day. I gave myself a present of sorts...allowing myself to temporarily be active at EvC on my otherwise 1-month sabbatical. So here goes my birthday session of various posts. Besides....I miss you guys.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
Happy Day, Phat man!
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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