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Author Topic:   The SEVEN "DAYS" WERE GEOLOGICAL ERAS
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Message 10 of 310 (682335)
12-01-2012 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by kofh2u
12-01-2012 10:44 AM


You don't even read your own sources do you?
Sorry but the very chart you provided refutes your assertion.

That seems to be pretty typical behavior.

Note that your very own chart says that a day equals a 24 hour period as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1.

You really haven't read the Bible, have you?

quote:
Genesis 1

King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.


Seven 24 hour periods.

It really is that simple.

Your assertion that 'The SEVEN "DAYS" WERE GEOLOGICAL ERAS ' is refuted and I expect you to stop posting falsehoods.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 13 of 310 (682338)
12-01-2012 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by kofh2u
12-01-2012 11:16 AM


Re: You don't even read your own sources do you?
Bullshit.

Your own source says that the use in Genesis 1 is a 24 hour day.

There is no mention of geologic eras in Genesis 1 and what you post are not geologic eras anyway.

Sorry but your idea is just bullshit.

It really is that simple.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 22 of 310 (682367)
12-01-2012 6:26 PM
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12-01-2012 6:15 PM


Re: You don't even read your own sources do you?
Sorry but you don't get to decide who can or cannot comment.

Your own source said "a day (24 hour period) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1"

Genesis 1 uses exactly that phrase and I posted the content of Genesis 1 for you since it seemed you had never read it. I'll post it again for you in case you didn't read it yet.

quote:

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.


Note each period is defined by an evening and a morning, a 24 hour day.

You are free to post your bullshit but I will continue to point out when you post nonsense.

Unlike you, I take the Bible and Christianity seriously.


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Message 24 of 310 (682370)
12-01-2012 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by kofh2u
12-01-2012 6:31 PM


Re: Seven, the hard way...
Please point out where Genesis 1 says (Father Nature, the first cause) or (Panthalassa) or (Pangea/Rodinia) or (composed of the Seven Large Tectonic Plates).

In case you have not read Genesis 1, here it is.

quote:
Genesis 1

King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.


Please show where the claims you made are in Genesis 1 or stop posting falsehoods.


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jar
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Message 29 of 310 (682383)
12-01-2012 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by kofh2u
12-01-2012 7:21 PM


Re: You don't even read your own sources do you?
But the authors of Genesis 1 had no clue what caused the periods of light or darkness as is pointed out in Genesis 1. Have you every read Genesis 1?

The Sun and Moon were simply to rule day and night, not cause day and night. They were just lights in the sky. The author of Genesis 1 simply didn't have a clue what caused light and even thought that the moon was a "light", yet another indication that no one should think of Genesis 1 as being factual or in any way a "science' text.

Edited by jar, : appalin spallin left out a "t"


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Message 30 of 310 (682384)
12-01-2012 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by kofh2u
12-01-2012 7:25 PM


Re: Seven, the hard way...
So you admit that Geneswis 1 does not say what you claim. In fact Genesis 1 never even implies that all the land was gathered into one place.

Have you ever read Genesis?

quote:
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

Note it is the waters that get gathered together, not land.


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Message 37 of 310 (682396)
12-01-2012 8:12 PM
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12-01-2012 7:54 PM


Re: Seven, the hard way...
More Bullshit. Even today almost all the water is gathered into one place.

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Message 49 of 310 (682473)
12-02-2012 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by NoNukes
12-02-2012 6:30 PM


Genesis 1 is falsified at the first verse.
Isn't Genesis 1:1 kinda forced? Is there any need to go beyond the first verse to dismiss the scientific accuracy of Genesis?

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Message 52 of 310 (682479)
12-02-2012 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by kofh2u
12-02-2012 7:05 PM


Re: Genesis 1 is falsified at the first verse.
Sorry but you are just posting more bullshit. There is no mention in Genesis 1:6 of Father nature or reality, that's just you making shit up. There is no mention in Genesis 1:6 of seven layers of atmosphere, that's just you making shit up. There is no mention in Genesis 1:6 of seven collections of condensed waters or evaporated water, that's just you making shit up.

And it doesn't matter, Genesis 1 was scientifically falsified at verse Genesis 1:1.

There's no real problem you making up shit or posting bullshit IF you could actually post some bullshit that was interesting, had some value or had any connection to reality. Keep trying though, there's always hope.


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Message 54 of 310 (682482)
12-02-2012 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by NoNukes
12-02-2012 9:06 PM


Re: Genesis 1 is falsified at the first verse.
But that is not the argument I would use.

Genesis 1:1 says;

quote:
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


So the first verse says that the earth and the waters were created on day one. If kofh2u wants to claim that the seven days are geological eras then on day one, era one, the earth was created.

The Sun and moon do not get created until day four and the earth did not get created before the sun.

Then he switched to some history of the expansion in Message 4 where day one is the inflationary stage. Well the earth was not created then either.

The fact is that no matter how you try to slice it or squeeze science into Genesis, the evidence won't let anyone get past Genesis 1:1.


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Message 66 of 310 (682499)
12-03-2012 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by kofh2u
12-03-2012 10:21 AM


Re: Genesis 1 is falsified at the first verse.
Gen 1:2 tells us, first, that t earth is void of its spherical shape, hence we can reason that it is described as in the form of the accretion disk of rotating rocks which are like murky "waters" of hot magma.

Sorry but a disk is still a form. You even say that "hence we can reason that it is described as in the form of the accretion disk of rotating rocks which are like murky "waters" of hot magma."

Once again you are simply making shit up and misrepresenting what the Bible says. Genesis 1:2 does not say that the earth was in the form of an accretion disk of rotating rocks which are like murky "waters" of hot magma and in fact it precludes any such interpretation.

Since it's clear you have never read Genesis 1, here is Genesis 1:2 for you.

quote:
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

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Message 69 of 310 (682503)
12-03-2012 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by kofh2u
12-03-2012 10:45 AM


Re: Genesis 1 is falsified at the first verse.
A cloud has form. That why we can point to one and say "That is a cloud." A cloud is also not void.

You are just making shit up and moving the goal posts at will.


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jar
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Message 86 of 310 (682538)
12-03-2012 1:48 PM
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12-03-2012 12:11 PM


Re: Genesis 1 is falsified at the first verse.
Your still just making shit up and moving the goal posts. A cloud is not empty, not indistinguishable ruin or a vacuity.

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jar
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Message 87 of 310 (682539)
12-03-2012 1:49 PM
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12-03-2012 1:34 PM


Re: Genesis 1 is falsified at the first verse.
But I don't "insist the Bible explains how he did this", in fact I point out that Genesis 1 and Genesis 2&3 are factually and scientifically wrong.

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Message 184 of 310 (682957)
12-06-2012 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 181 by Coyote
12-06-2012 10:06 AM


Re: My Thread on the Science of Genesis
It's even funnier since his claim, if it were true, would be totally different than anything that science shows us. According to him Noah's wives bore children that were a wholly different species.

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