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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
Great post! I agree with what you say, especially that the "spirit of God, (i.e.; Gen 1:2), is actually the intricate web of the Natural Laws by which God accomplishes all his works. In regard to what you propose, essential Direct evolution, I would agree and submit evidence to that idea in support of such a factor at work today and for the last 7 million years at least. I am uncertain how well i might maintain an argument for a Direct Evolution beyond such time, except that the Natural Laws would have been sufficient initially, until the Unconscious mind of the life forms on the Planet began directing long term behaviors for whole species like the social animal, ants, bees, termites, mankind, etc. Leonard Mlodinow, the best-selling author of The Drunkard’s Walk and coauthor of The Grand Design, with Stephen Hawking, gives us a startling and eye-opening examination of how the unconscious mind shapes our experience of the world. I believe that our Collective Unconscious mind is the Good Shepherd which with "his" third eye has always been watching over humanity as individuals like you and I may come and go, augmenting and subtracting from the ever present Collective body of human thought in the Unconscious mind that is the ancient of ancients among us.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
That would be wrong. Nature is the tool of this Force, and means by which it changes from moment to moment as the ever unfolding Reality presents itself to men. In order for man to survive as a species, he must know the Truth, his savior from the Natural Laws of Evolution that require he adapt of become extinct. Men must recognize this as a process that requires a religious and even ritual adherence to the lord, Truth. The experiences of the whole species have accumulated over millions of years, and are stored, genetically, in our gene pool. We are born with the Truth inside us, locked away from our conscious access to it, inside the Unconscious mind. This is the source of that which is missing from our ideas about evolution. The technological advancements that will clone organs and implant computer chips, etc, will be the means to a marriage between man and the almighty Force behind the evolving and unfolding Reality we must bow to.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
Yeah... Truth seems to be only my God in these forums as you and they other people avoid it while responding as if you honor it when what you say is posted as such. But as a species, one that is totally dependent upon thinking for survival, the Truth is essetail to decision making. Truth is the savior for our species.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
ANDREW MARTIN and ANDREW POLLACK Published: January 16, 2008 After years of debate, the Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday declared that food from cloned animals and their progeny is safe to eat, clearing the way for milk and meat derived from genetic copies of prized dairy cows, steers and hogs to be sold at the grocery store. Related “This is a huge milestone,” said Mark Walton, president of ViaGen, a leading livestock cloning company in Austin, Tex.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
So you agree there is one example then, and stand corrected on the initial incredulous attitude, right? But that example is just the present State-of-the-Art in directed Evolution.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
1) Like with some of the people here, you mean/ 2) The Direction given to Evolution was inherent in the Natural Law of Life that made Survival the Prime Instinct. 3) What We see in all life forms is the tenacious instinctual drive to live, so often in the face of realities that cause almost insurmountable obstacles and even excruciating pain and suffering. We see the lowest forms of life, like bacteria, suffer attacks from miracle drugs, but manage to mutate and survive in the face of attempts to kill them. German Cockroaches (Germanica Blattella) will become resistant to insecticides after millions and millions of them have been exterminated in what seemed to a doom for that species. This one Law indwelling all living things was God's Direct Evolution that intended for life to accompany His Reality as a partner and co-existing mirror that would eventually lead to a creature which could image His being and help Him maintain the relationship with Life forevermore. Man HAS managed to form a mental IMAGE of "Father Nature" by understanding of His Laws and creation. Gen. 1:26 And God, (Father Nature, Reality), said, Let us, (i.e., his Natural Laws, together, in pan-en-theistic expression of the Spirit of God: [Gen 1:2]), make man, (through the process of gradual evolution ending in the finished Adam i.e.; Jesus),... Let us ((i.e., his Natural Laws) make man, (as a reflection of Reality, in his mind, able, through Truth, to imminently reflect the "I am" of this existence: [John 14:6]), IN OUR IMAGE, (after the spirit of our orderly panentheistic organization): and let them, (men as the Dominant species on earth to this day), have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
That is the correct attitude for people which ought be maintained all their life since one life time is not even close to time enough to understand what this experience we encounter after leaving our mother's womb is all about. At birth, we suddenly become aware of an almighty force that is in constant contact with us through our seven major senses. This Force responds to things we do, and it makes us respond back, too. Arrogantly, in a short time, we become confident that we understand and can interact with this Reality we face every second of our life. We find this less than difficult at first, because we have been programmed in our Unconscious memories, those built from experiences back through all the 22 links to the very first Adam to appear on Earth.. Our Unconscious mind already knows things about the environment we will be discovering consciously, and already knows how that environment, both natural and social, will meet us after the first smack on our bottom. This Unconscious mind inside us will lead us to complement and participate with Almighty Reality, as long as we adapt, accept, and conform to his ways and Natural Laws. What we call "instinct" is one of the ways this Uncoscious mind leads and guides us. This basic spirit-like Truth, this Unconscious mind that is within us, has evolved through genetic encoding of these instinctual and learned phylogenetic experiences. Our genes have stored away knowledge and memories from previous life experiences that took place many times, over thousands of years. This Ancient of ancients inside us is a third eye watching and whispering to us from birth more loudly, but still in whispers, always with us. We are in a personal relationship with the storehouse of Truth, for life and, really, after death, until we are born again. Knowledge of the world and the reality we will encounter has been contained in the memory of this Unconscious partner inside our head, experiential, through the school of hard knocks. That is why I call it The Truth. The TRUTH has been stored genetically inside our individual Unconscious mind which is born again with every birth. The clean slate of our Conscious mind is chalk and blackboard for our generation, and a record keeper of what experiences and behaviors our generation will have had. The good that men do will be so remembered. It will be added to these Unconscious memories, while the evil that men will have done will be interred with their bones towards the Hell of Extinction of their kind. The failures and the successes will collect as a Directied Evolution will emerge for our whole species, one that holds the Truth as the light into the Way for our species to find LIFE eternal with this God of the Living, i.e.; the Father of all Nature, the ever unfolding Force behind the changing Reality of the next generations of our kind will encounter. Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
Maybe you can better explain what the Bible is saying when it tellsus plain out that there willbe no more death, no pain, etc? Revelation 21:4-5
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
That is honest, but half true. You thereby admit you do not know what you read in Rev 21:4-5 means exactly. Through stubborn insistence, in that if you honestly... do not have a clue, you will nay-say anyone who hypothesizes one for you. This is essentially a closed mind coupled to the arrogance, conceit, even jealousy against allowing an idea inthe absence of one yourself. Isn't it?
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
Well tells us what you think Rev 21:4-5 means, since we all can and have read the passage.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
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I did not say that the Natural Laws were "designed." I said the Directed Evolution was inherent in the Natural Laws which control our Evolution.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
Sez who? Pierre Cardin Teilhard saw the direction of Evolution headed towards the end game of Omega Point:
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
Even if you are correct, a hypothesis is the first Scientific Step into considering an idea. What is scientifically correct is to furnish examples where a hypothesis might explain phenomenon previously misunderstood, not explained, or explained only hypothetically with other suggestions. I would argue that since Instincts are formed from previous life experiences of our species, they evidence an example were we "remember" things that took place in previous generations, after the people had been born, and because they found responses to certain experience were effective. Since these experiences were decision based, i.e., a choice in response made to circumstances like snakes and spiders, say, the instinct is a mental construct that appears in our mind. We KNOW something intuitively and instinctively which comes down to us and DIRECTS us from an ancient resouvier in our Unconscious mind.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
What Jung and Freud did was reason and observe: Carl Jung: The Collective Unconscious is a storehouse of all the experiences of humankind transmitted to each individual. It becomes the primary base of a person's pyche, direc ting and influencing behavior. Jung was supported by Freud in that Freud predicted our eventual discovery of what he called "Phylogenetic Memory."
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 3088 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
...you answered your own criticism in that "inherited instincts" means they are traits which are sourced in our genes.
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