The gun homicide rate is 10 times higher in the US than in Canada and the UK:
Gun ownership in the United States is higher than in any other country:
The more guns per capita the more homicides per capita.
Aside from target practice and hunting, most guns are never used, but of those that *are* used the most likely target is family members. The next most likely target is friends and neighbors. Probably the least likely target is a criminal. Bringing a gun into a house only increases the risk of violent death. It makes everyone nearby less safe, not more.
Commenting about a couple things from this and your exchange with Tangle.
First, simple and easy are two different things. The answer to reducing gun massacres is simple: reduce the availability of guns. Achieving this will not be easy. I doubt it's even possible in today's political climate.
Second, the massacres get all the attention, but what's most important is reducing gun deaths, which are about 10 times higher in this country, approximately proportional to the greater number of guns.
RAZD, Percy, Dr. A, Theodoric etc. You guys keep answering me as if I were making up what the founders meant.
I haven't read your founder's quotes, let alone replied to you about them.
My points have been few. The high rate of gun deaths in the US will continue for as long as we have a high level of gun ownership, a fix requires widespread gun ownership to end, and this is very unlikely in the current political climate.
Your constitution can of course be changed if there is a political will in the country to do so.
Yes, exactly. Regardless of the founders' intent in the 2nd amendment, about which there is much debate, we can amend it. The founders believed many things that feel strange to modern minds, such as that some people were actually only 3/5 of a person and that women shouldn't vote, but we amended the constitution and we can do so again.
And it even comes in human flavors with hair triggers.
Sorry I came across as being a jerk, but you seem to be missing the irony. You were asked why you don't have full-auto, and you didn't respond with comments about the serious responsibility involved but that you can't afford it and you'd "prolly be in my house and wouldn't want to wreck the place." You followed that with, "Unlike firearms, destructive devices are just too dangerous," and your blasé attitude combined with the thought of a device that could wreck your house while not being destructive was just too ironic to pass by without comment.
You followed your "destructive device" comment by exploding with "I don't give a fuck about the NRA," and sorry, I couldn't resist that either.
Anyway, carry on with this dispassionate discussion about various weaponry in a thread begun in reaction to a mass murder. Lookin' good!
Never happens like it does in the movies, though, where the guy steps out from behind a support, points his weapon, and says, "Drop it." Crisis over, guy's a hero. But in the real world I guess a guy carrying concealed is enough to force perpetrators to commit suicide.