what we didn't do was say that because some thugs carry knives then everyone should. That would be preposterous wouldn't it?
Of course. But there's no place for the likes of you and me, Tangle, in this discussion, because it is so bat-shit insane we cannot begin grasp the lunacy that drives it. We expect right-wing fruitcakes like Faith to think that the solution is more guns, but when you have supposed thinkers like Crash supporting this shit, that country is fucked in ways we can't even begin to imagine.
As a lifelong resident, I'm no big fan of the UK, but at least we get some things right.
I have no idea. I was shooting air rifles and pistols from age 7, 12-bore on clay pigeon shoots from age 11, was teaching marksmanship on .303 by age 30 (and also in charge of the armoury), and at the same time was shooting SA80 (L85, L86 LSW, and cadet.) My experience of handguns is much less, and have only shot them on no more than 10 or so occasions (and all pre-dunblane.)
I think of recent anecdotes of the "stand your ground" laws, like one in which a man told some kids in a car to turn down the volume, thought he saw one reach for a shotgun, and emptied his pistol into a car full of actually unarmed teens killing one of them.
that's a great story, but FFS even your screwed up country isn't that fucking bad...
And having just checked it out... like WHAT THE FUCK ?????? And Crash is here defending these twats with their guns. I'm sorry, but as far the USA is concerned, I'm with Riply and Hicks.
quote: I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Sort of neatly gets around your fucking second amendment.
It is possible (though I think improbable and counterproductive in any case) that possession of firearms by the general public can be more frequently used to prevent deaths than to cause them via the threat of lethal resistance.
Rahvin, people are idiots. That includes you and me at particular moments in our lives. You do not put guns into the hands of idiots. It is that fucking simple. If you have the problem that plenty of idiots already have guns, then giving more guns to more idiots is possibily not the smartest of moves...
.let us not make the same mistake as crash in disproportionately assigning weight to anecdotes over statistics
This happened three weeks ago. This is not just some anecdote. And coming on the back of Trayvon Martin. But it's not these incidents. It is the fact that you have idiots like the two fellons involved in these two cases wandering around, armed. These are the people to whom you are giving guns.