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Jaderis
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Message 1886 of 5179 (691882)
02-26-2013 4:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1400 by Faith
01-22-2013 6:21 PM


Re: The Un-American Mind
So you say that that this Christian nation cannot turn the other cheek on behalf of the citizens, but we can kill in their name. Pease elaborate.

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Jaderis
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From: NY,NY
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Message 2196 of 5179 (697397)
04-25-2013 2:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1887 by Faith
02-26-2013 7:49 AM


Re: The Un-American Mind
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Self-defense is not murder, Jaderis, and nobody who defends the second amendment is out to "kill" in that sense. Those who make a moral equivalence between justice and murder are committing a great sin themselves. Just like those who make an equivalence between the death penalty and murder. Are you one of those?

I don't know what you mean by "one of those," but doesn't the Gospel of Jesus compel us to reserve judgement of those who sin and those who are our enemies unto Him? Can you point out any text where Jesus asks us to defend ourselves with arms and judge and kill those who would oppress or oppose us? Jesus also does not make the distinction between nations and individuals in His gospels so still I have no idea how you are able to justify killing people in the name of national self defense when Jesus explicitly ordered his followers to turn the other cheek and He allowed Himself to be killed rather than give in?

If our nation is held accountable for the actions that you feel are antithetical to God's wishes and subject to God's wrath, then we should also be held accountable as a nation for those things (like waging war instead of turning the other cheek) which go against His teachings about loving thy neighbor and helping those who who are in need.


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